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11-12-2003, 09:14 PM

night stalker - surely societies such as the UK and australia, who have strict gun control laws, are examples for the fact that an unarmed populace need not necessarily be subjugated or abused?

or, to put it another way, the US citizens are armed to the teeth compared to australian citizens, yet the Patriot Act you referred to is much more subjugating and abusive of the citizenry than anything the australian govt passed in response to 9/11 and the war on terro.

my point being - guns dont seem to help prevent the thing you claim the 2nd ammendment protects.

note that i agree with you 100% that treating the disease is the right solution.

edit: typo and added last sentence

[ 11-12-2003, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: sultan ]

11-12-2003, 09:14 PM	#4
sultan Guest Posts: n/a	night stalker - surely societies such as the UK and australia, who have strict gun control laws, are examples for the fact that an unarmed populace need not necessarily be subjugated or abused? or, to put it another way, the US citizens are armed to the teeth compared to australian citizens, yet the Patriot Act you referred to is much more subjugating and abusive of the citizenry than anything the australian govt passed in response to 9/11 and the war on terro. my point being - guns dont seem to help prevent the thing you claim the 2nd ammendment protects. note that i agree with you 100% that treating the disease is the right solution. edit: typo and added last sentence [ 11-12-2003, 09:16 PM: Message edited by: sultan ]