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Old 11-10-2003, 11:03 PM   #123
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Quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:

Secondly pantheism is not a religion. It is a worldview that is the foundation of many religions.
It may not be a religion to you, mate. Atheism, Pantheism, Polytheism, Monotheism all have a common root: theism, which is a belief system. By deningrating Pantheism, you are doing the same thing as I would be by mocking Christianity or Islam.

Quote:
Originally posted by Yorick:

It seems more than a few have trouble understanding the difference between an idea, and people. Here are some examples:

Republicanism is evil
vs
Republicans are evil.


Communism is stupid
vs
Communists are stupid


Christianity is confusing
vs
Christians are confused

Environmentalism destroys society
vs
Environmentalists destroy society


Islam contains calls to violence
vs
Muslims are violent


Homosexual sex is a perversion
vs
Homosexuals are perverted


Guns are dangerous
vs
Gun owners are dangerous


Public education has failed
vs
Teachers are failures

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However, I cross over by describing an ideas effect and a subsequent generalisation of PEOPLE:

Sport inhibits compassion

Gun ownership leads to murderous intent

Pantheism leads to social deafness

Christianity leads to self-rightousness

Communism creates anarchists

Republicanism breeds racism

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Does ANYONE understand the difference I am speaking of?
I see where you are trying to go with this mate, but you are making a logical mistake in your arguements.

Broken down, your problem with Maeklin's sig followed this progression: (I don't even know which topic this is anymore ....)
Person A makes insulting statement about Idea X.
I believe in Idea X.
->Therefore, Person A must be insulting me.

You can apply this (false) logic to any of the statements you make in your first set.

Homosexual sex is a perversion {of nature}.
I am a homosexual. (for arguements sake )
->Therefore: You are calling me a perversion of nature.

Republicanism is evil.
I am a Repuglican. (again, for arguements sake! [img]tongue.gif[/img] )
->Therefore: You are calling me evil.

Using this fallacy of logic, it is impossible to debate any idea because any arguement against an idea turns into an insult to those with an opposing view.

Just because I believe that followers of religion are ignorant twits doesn't mean I believe you are an ignorant twit. It does mean that I think that you are misguided and uninformed, and need saving of mindless brainwashing. [img]tongue.gif[/img] And the converse is also true. The faithful think I am just a misguided lost soul in need of saving!

NOTE: The above is meant to be a tongue and cheek way of demonstrating a point and NOT an insult to anyone or no one. Nobody should be insulted though! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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