Couple quick rebuttals for you Yorick. Actually, they are really just something to consider.
You bring up a point about “empty” space. You are right that there could be something there and we just don’t know it yet. That also supports an argument I have with the “positive”. Since we are not capable of understanding all, we are also incapable of coming to a conclusion in this matter. This actually illustrates my problem with people who philosophically speak of items such as this. They use a quantifying theory to support their argument when in truth they cannot quantify all that exists.
As always, my simple point is when you take a sample portion of data, there is no way to can come to an exclusive answer. It has happened all through history and on occasion has even set back man’s discovery of the universe (think back to the sun orbiting the earth). Just a note, I’m not implying religion here for those who see that…I’m also speaking of science.
I also have a comment of the Infinite of the universe. I’m sure many of you are familiar with Stephen Hawking. In one of his printed lectures he talks in depth about black holes and their creation. He also talks about how a black hole destroyed the basis for quantum physics. The reason quantum physics were destroyed, as we once knew them, was due to two scientists who were attempting to measure the residual effects of the “Big Bang”. They succeeded in finding a measurable residual effect, Red Shift.
For those that don’t know, red shift is what occurs when light energy travels for so long that the particles slow down and change spectrum, becoming a form of radiation in the “red band”. When these scientists found this, they also found that no matter where we measured from, the result was always exactly the same. Since they first discovered this, sometime in the 70’s, we have done additional tests to measure this red shift outside of or atmosphere and as far away as we could from the earth. Every time the results are exactly the same leading to the conclusion that the universe neither begins nor ends. Instead, it actually travels in upon itself, leaving no end. At the same time the universe continually expands, to our minds.
There is the distinct probability that there is some unknown factor that plays a part, which we cannot understand at this time. This does lead one into debate on the various dimensions and whether or not they exist, as we know them, but that is another subject.
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