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Chewbacca · 10-31-2003, 12:03 AM

I am a panthiest. And while people are certainly free to have problems with pantheism, simplifying the pantheistic beleif as the Universe having a 'wank' with itself is such gross an understatement and mistruth to panthiestic thought, it leads me to beleive that only someone either deeply unknowing about and/or deeply biased against panthisiem could make it.

First, a defintion of pantheism: the doctrine that the Universe taken or concieved of as a whole is God. This is an excellent dictionary definition, but it doesn't go very deep into pantheistic thought about the nature of God, other than God is taken as the whole of the Universe.

So a further defining of the pantheistic concept of God is in order. This pantheist further defines God as Living Infinite Omnipresent Creative Benificial Mind.

Another element of panthiestic thought, is that the infinite universe thinks of itself in finite ways. A most elementary manifestion is that of Gender, or male/femaleness. NOT sex, or having a wank, but qualities that are either active or passive, reflected in terms like: light and dark, yin and yang.

While it can be quite easy to debase this concept of gender and qualify the male/female interaction involved in the universal creative process as 'having a wank with itself'. The problem and error is that using such simpliftic descriptive terms does nothing to qualify the deep profound awe and utter spiritual mystery a panthiest expiriences being part of and interconnected with these inherent qualities of loving creativity, interacting infintinely and manifesting in finite.

Of course I dont expect someone who percieves God as a seperate entity than themselves and creation to understand the depth of panthiest thought and belief. This understanding allows me not to be offended by the off-handed 'wank' understatement But it does provide me with the opportunity to expand on the understatement and begin to provide a more accurate reflection of panthestic thinking.

Any other pantheists in the house? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 10-31-2003, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ]

10-31-2003, 12:03 AM	#114
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 52 Posts: 5,373	I am a panthiest. And while people are certainly free to have problems with pantheism, simplifying the pantheistic beleif as the Universe having a 'wank' with itself is such gross an understatement and mistruth to panthiestic thought, it leads me to beleive that only someone either deeply unknowing about and/or deeply biased against panthisiem could make it. First, a defintion of pantheism: the doctrine that the Universe taken or concieved of as a whole is God. This is an excellent dictionary definition, but it doesn't go very deep into pantheistic thought about the nature of God, other than God is taken as the whole of the Universe. So a further defining of the pantheistic concept of God is in order. This pantheist further defines God as Living Infinite Omnipresent Creative Benificial Mind. Another element of panthiestic thought, is that the infinite universe thinks of itself in finite ways. A most elementary manifestion is that of Gender, or male/femaleness. NOT sex, or having a wank, but qualities that are either active or passive, reflected in terms like: light and dark, yin and yang. While it can be quite easy to debase this concept of gender and qualify the male/female interaction involved in the universal creative process as 'having a wank with itself'. The problem and error is that using such simpliftic descriptive terms does nothing to qualify the deep profound awe and utter spiritual mystery a panthiest expiriences being part of and interconnected with these inherent qualities of loving creativity, interacting infintinely and manifesting in finite. Of course I dont expect someone who percieves God as a seperate entity than themselves and creation to understand the depth of panthiest thought and belief. This understanding allows me not to be offended by the off-handed 'wank' understatement But it does provide me with the opportunity to expand on the understatement and begin to provide a more accurate reflection of panthestic thinking. Any other pantheists in the house? [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 10-31-2003, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ] __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?