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Originally posted by Faceman:
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Originally posted by Yorick:
Oh and Faceman... what is the problem with self love again?
There are two types of men. Ones that admit they masturbate, and ones that lie about it.  [img]smile.gif[/img]
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The problem is that (due to the people that lie about it) it is not commonly accepted and widely considered shameful.
You know very well that this is again not the point.
Calling someone an ass and then going on explaining that an ass is actually a very smart animal and that he shouldn't be feeling insulted is not incredibly mature.
Again, possible offensiveness lies in subjective observation not in objective argumentation. [/QUOTE]Is it? By whom? As I said, show me a man who says he doesn't and I will show you a liar.
So if that's the cause of offense, then the offended could well do with a dose of some self acceptance. Let's not take ourselves too seriously
Self love is simply not as fulfilling. That is the point I was making.
In any case, euphemism or no, the point is still made.
It's like people who write "f***" what's the point of that? When we read it we say the word in our heads so why do the consor thing? The meaning is still translated.
Same with the analogy. If I am one with the universe, and I make love to a woman, who is also one with me, then I am actually... engaging in self love... I mean, the meaning is still there.
The whole purpose to life in pantheist thought is self exploration. The universe exploring itself. Loving itself.
In any case, in answer to you thoughts about Jesus, the person I wrote the post to had no qualms about calling Jesus an advocate of slavery and a number of other mis/halftruths. I didn't see you protesting much.