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Old 10-30-2003, 07:50 PM   #106
Yorick
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Originally posted by Faceman:
You have pointed out on another thread that you are not insulted by truths.
Yet other people are not as calm as you on this. I for example am currently VERY overweight (need to loose about 40kgs). I know I am, but if someone told me to the face I still would be insulted/offended, because it hurts me to be reminded of that truth
So it's not about proving if your statement was right. It simply carried the possibility of being offensive by choice of words: "So you believe in a masturbating universe, big deal" not an actual quote, just paraphrasing) which diminishes the value of the presumed divine essence by connecting it with something which in religions is commonly referred to as unclean or even sinful.

Many Christians would find it offensive if somebody diminished the importance of Jesus by calling him factually correct but simplicistic names, probably I would find that offensive myself, though an agnostic, only because I was raised in a Catholic enviroment and don't like my childhood pictures being shattered.


So whether or not your statement may be deemed correct, I think it is possibly offensive to people who strongly believe in pantheism in a similar way Maelakin's sig was offensive to you at the beginning of the other thread.
For the umpteenth time, Maelakins sig targetted PEOPLE. It made derisive remarks about people who hold certain ideas.

Where is the insult in my comment? It is focussing on the IDEA.

Argue the point, not the person is the mantra for forum discussion. I am indeed arguing the point. A pantheist could be a genius. I know many Pantheists are brilliant. Confucious being one. Pantheists can be compassionate, explorative, retentive, self aware and spirited individuals like any other.

The IDEA is what i challenged. Lets understand the difference, please.
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