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Old 10-24-2003, 03:01 PM   #47
Yorick
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Originally posted by : Maelakin
(stuff about suicide and motives that disappeared when I hit quote)
The motive is entirely the point. The war hero is making a decision to save others. The inescapable consequence is the end of his own life, but were the person given the choice of whether to do the action and live, they would choose to live. Wanting to stay alive is what makes the Hero heroic. It's not like they want to die, they are putting others lives ahead of their own. Selflessness. Ultimate sacrifice.

If the person did not want to live at all, it negates the sacrificial element.

Socrates for example was upholding his advocacy of law. He was condemned by the courts, and part of his greater love for what he would leave behind, chose to abide by that decision. Even up until when he drank the poison, the courts could have recinded it's verdict.

That is not suicide in my book.

Motive is everything. Motive is the whole point.
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