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Old 10-20-2003, 09:01 PM   #34
Seraph
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Join Date: September 12, 2001
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Age: 43
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Republicans:...Ri[c]hard Nixon
What exactly did Nixon do to get on this list.
He ended the war in Vietnam. He got a treaty with Russia to limit strategic nuclear weapons. He increased US-Russia trade (eg. the winter grain deal) and reduced tensions with Russia. He became the first president to start to really recognise Communist China, and reduced tensions with that. His Secretary of State negotiated disengagement agreements between Israel and its opponents, Egypt and Syria. The "Nixon Doctrine" that encouraged countries to take a greater roll in their defence.

Do any of these things seem agressive?

You can make a similar argument for Ike, who among other things refused to support England, France and Israel when Egypt (supported by the USSR) nationalized the Suez Cannal. Is that the action of someone who is agressive?

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I don't know if it was mentioned, Under their Alliance treaties with Japan, Germany was obligated to declare war on the U.S. And, it did.
It wasn't mentioned because it isn't true. Under the terms of their alliance Germany would only have been obligated if the US had attacked Japan first. The Japanese-German alliance was basicly a defensive alliance. If this wern't the case, Japan would have already violated the terms when Germany attacked Russia in mid-1941.

The Three-Power Pact between Germany, Italy, and Japan, signed in Berlin on Sept 27th 1940 (AKA "The Tripartite Pack") clearly states in article three "Germany, Italy and Japan agree to co-operate in their efforts on aforesaid lines. They further undertake to assist one another with all political, economic and military means when one of the three contracting powers is attacked by a power at present not involved in the European war or in the Chinese-Japanese conflict."

There is absolutely no provision in the German-Japanese Agreement and Supplementary Protocol signed on Nov 25th 1936, the Protocol Concluded by Italy, Germany, and Japan, signed Nov 6, 1937, or the Tripartite Pack that calls for support in the event that one of the axis nations was the aggressor.

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If I can recall, a few small countries(can't remember their names) were invaded by the Americans just because they had communism.
Well, the ones that I am aware of, in the western hemisphere:
Dominican Republic 1965 (Johnson)
Cuba (Cuban exiles, trained and supplied by the US, may not count) 1961 (JFK)
Grenada 1983 (Regan)

[ 10-20-2003, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: Seraph ]
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