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Old 10-18-2003, 06:30 AM   #17
Skunk
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Join Date: September 3, 2001
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Originally posted by Yorick:

Before you go jumping to conclusions about my own research, simply because it contradicts your own preconceptions, why not kindly ask me what I have read before you denigrate my position.
Yorick, I didn't *need* to ask you what you had read to denigrate your position. You had made a statement that erred to such a degree that no further questions were neccessary - and you have repeated that error once more in your response: "However, the Qu'ran quite clearly and succinctly declares assurance of salvation for those muslims martyred, those killed in Holy War"

Actually, the Qu'ran declares assurance of salvation of those muslims martyred or killed while on a Jihad - not on a holy war.
Jihad simply means 'to strive' - and it has many facets. The man who wanders into the desert by himself to ponder the meaning of 'God's word' is on a Jihad. The one who gives all of his money to the poor and struggles to help them is also on a Jihad. The woman who jumps into a river to save the life of a child is on a Jihad. The Iranian lawyer who was recently awarded the Nobel Prize for peace is on a personal Jihad too. Tareq Ayyoub the Al Jazeera correspondant who was killed covering the Anglo-Iraq war and who had been beaten, tortured and detained in several middle-eastern states for reporting the truth about those regimes was also on a Jihad.

If you have misconstrued this basic term, then your reading has been for naught - because it is the most basic ideal of Islam, from which all of the philosophy springs.

[ 10-18-2003, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: Skunk ]
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