Thread: More hate :(
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Old 10-08-2003, 07:35 AM   #17
Cloudbringer
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Originally posted by Rokenn:
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Originally posted by Cloudbringer:
No offense, Rokenn, but is this just for our info or to make a statement about someone's religion?

I think the idea as noted above, is tasteless and crass and downright obnoxious to the family and others and the guy suggesting it is probably a publicity seeker, but I don't see how we can discuss this without it turning into another heated 'religious people are intolerant!' thread.

The rest here is not aimed at you, Rokenn, it's just a general comment of mine. [img]smile.gif[/img]

There's one bad apple in every bunch and I certainly acknowledge there are so-called religious people who are over the top. Same in politics. But after a while the same old arguments just seem stale. I'm sorry but one reason I don't participate more often in this forum, other than as a mod, is that I find it seems to frequently boil down to making fun or ranting about either religion (most often Christianity) or the political left and right taking shots at one another.

I've seen a few good discussions, don't get me wrong, but alot of the time it seems the bulk of the threads here are aimed at jabbing the religious or the heavily left/right politically oriented. Just constant 'heavy' topics that incite anger or irritation rather than inspire discussions of a concept or event. Not much for discussion there, it ends up on a loop nobody can get off of.

That said, I have seen a few 'lighter' threads and figure there's always hope!

Ahem.. sorry Rokenn, don't want to off-topic your thread!
The article pretty much speaks for itself. The community does not want this 'memorial' but this man who is so twisted up inside with hatred and venom is using legal tactics to force the to display it. Sadly there are too many that share is view of the world.

I find it odd that you complain about 'heavy' topics in this forum, as that was the whole reason it was created. 'Light' topics in the news mostly seem to pop up in the GD forum *shrug*
[/QUOTE]It isn't the topics but the way they tend to be most frequently anti-religion or anti(left/right)politics in such a way as to inspire 'circular' debates.

In this case I doubt anyone will argue that the guy's a genius and deserves to be enshrined, himself. Obviously the base reaction we'd have is one of disgust at the intent, even if we think he has the freedom to speak his mind. The only 'debate/discussion' that I could see coming from an article like this was a more general anti-religion one like we've seen with similar threads. But so far, so good.

Oh and if you read the opening by Z, this is not JUST a 'heavy' thread forum, or wasn't intended that way. [img]smile.gif[/img] It is where such things go, of course, but not originally intended as soley comprised of such.
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