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Old 09-20-2003, 07:06 AM   #8
The Hierophant
Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom
 

Join Date: May 10, 2002
Location: Dunedin, New Zealand.
Age: 43
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Quote:
Originally posted by Felix The Assassin:
War is not evil.
How one executes war is evil, but war itself is not evil.

It is not the gun that killed, but the person who used the gun.

My tank cannot kill you, but when my tank is manned and I'm given the order, then my tank "CREW" using the tank will kill you.

My tank cannot go to war, but I can take my tank to war.

Without war we also maintain stablization. What would happen if we pulled our plug in Korea and came home?

What would happen if we pulled from the Balkans? Would war erupt, or would the people that have been killing each other for 100's of years go back to killing each other?

War is not evil, it has no face, it has no name, but the perusers of war and how it is carried out is where you are confused. For war without fighters, is still war, but where is the evil?
I think we are 100% agreed in regards to your post there Felix [img]smile.gif[/img]
Yet your statements regarding Korea and the Balkans (indeed your profession itself)would indicate that you believe that the individual human must stop war with war, yes? This is where we differ in opinion. I think war can only be stopped, permanently, with self-actualisation: in teaching each individual human that to maintain a healthy community they need not follow orders at all . When the war-bands disperse, war ceases to exist. However, with prejudice being what it is at this particular phase of our species' development, letting go of prejudice cannot be done without risking utter devastation at the hands of those whom you 'assume' would attack you. A sad conundrum really. Yet the process of this re-education has already begun my friend. So long as one person believes it, their bretheren are legion. It may take thousands of years to take root, but we've got all the time in the universe.
It really does take a huge amount of courage to walk away from a fight, trust me man, I know. You don't know whether your would-be opponent will attack you from behind, or find some other means to take you out. But this I know for certain, if you don't ever walk away, then you will never stop fighting. You will never find peace. And this prospect isn't pleasant, no matter how macho we might want to be. The cycle has to stop somewhere, and it's the people who do choose to walk away from the fight that shall be our species' real heroes...in the long run.
So yes, we're very much alike Felix, we just use different methods to try and find peace, which is fine by me [img]smile.gif[/img] I wish you all the best.
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