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Old 09-20-2003, 06:10 AM   #4
The Hierophant
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Join Date: May 10, 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Felix The Assassin:


War is not glorious, but freedom demands a high price.
Without freedom, then what do you have?
Without war, what are your options?
In the face of the enemy, war is not glorious, but freedom demands a high price.
Watch the news, read the paper, listen to what the Gov't is saying, then look further, look into the heart of the enemy terroritoy and see what the Gov't is really doing. Then united we stand, we must make the Gov't admit to what it says is not, and to acknolwledge what is being done.
For war is not evil.....

Felix
On the contrary Felix, war is incredibly evil, and incredibly new. Believe it or not, but we still live in the same age as the ancient Romans. We live in the same age as the ancient mesopotamians. We live in the age of civilisation, and as such we live in paranoid reactionism toward civilisation's most destructive side-affect: war. Yet if civilization (ie: settled, possessive human communitites, tying themselves to static plots of land in order to reap organised harvests) has only been around for ten thousand odd years or so, then warfare too is a new, artificial human invention. And one that can be done away with just as easily as slavery, female subservience and prejudicial racism. There is no need for any of these cultural factors, in any society/community, and once people no longer accept them as necessary, indeed once they no longer enter the minds of people at all, their psychological influence over individuals practically dissolves.

The things to ask yourself are (with brutal honesty in mind, not mere patriotic euphoria): what exactly is your 'nation'? where did it come from? How does it work? What sustains it? and from there, you may develope alternative theories concerning 'freedom'. I really, genuinely, and with all due practicality, believe that there is absolutely NO need for war. That's not to say that war won't ever happen, just that if enough people are re-educated as to how to maintain a cohesive human mass-community, you'll find that many people will no longer want to go through all the hard work of waging war. Have you ever noticed how the hard-currency/political clout 'prizes' of warfare always tend to benefit the victorious state and it's supporting power-groups, and not the individual workers that keep the state running?

Defending your territory from invasion is one thing, invading another person's territory because you think they might invade yours is another thing entirely. Your comrades that you know and love and respect are one group of people Felix, your government that uses you as a killing tool is another group entirely. You don't need them, but they sure as hell need you.

(edit for typos)

[ 09-20-2003, 07:43 AM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]
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