09-11-2003, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Skunk:
As a foreigner I can not travel to the United States and engage in free speech. If I drop the wrong remark or if my remarks are misunderstood, the security services can use that to obtain a warrant to search my home/lodging and spy on me. They can even lock me up without telling anyone and throw away the key. Hell, I'm sure that I've made enough comments on this board to have them do that already.
Yeah its rampant, people are being locked up in droves...thousands of them..no millions so better not come here [img]smile.gif[/img]
A few months ago the University of Virginia decided to hold an international conference on the Middle East - they invited the leading professors from each field from both abroad and from home. 90% of the foreign guests refused to come, fearing persecution and the lack of rights that they now have under Patriot. The venue was moved to Toronto where *all* attended.
Obviously men who stand with their convictions men who errr face any umm danger to speak and be free to spread their words of truth and wisdom....who let them selves be ruled by fear and cowardice.....Yep we lucked out.
No-one who resides in the US and posts on these boards will know whether they are being monitored. They do not know if the security services are checking their telephone, internet and banking records - they do not know if their home has already been searched because of an off the cut remark about 'Bushes war of Terror'.
Actually any sane person knows that the internet being a public environment knows anything typed is being stored and seen by millions....any thoughts of privacy on the internet is foolishness
They simply do not know - and the fear of that will put off many people from speaking their mind and engaging in public debate. Who wants to risk having their home searched without their knowledge?
Ummm since you have admitted you don't live here, cannot visit here it seems to me that you speak from ignorance. I live here. I travel here. I say what I want...and yet...I am not locked up, not harrassed and my home hasn't been searched. (dogs would have to be either killed or drugged) Amazing...I must be one of the "elite protected" come on guys, this place is sounding like the conspiracy center of North Dakota.
I can say what I want on these boards without fear of persecution because I do not reside in the US. How ironic it is that such things are not possible in the 'home of democracy'.
I will say here "GEORGE BUSH IS AN ASSHOLE".....Ill be waiting for the gestapo.... geez get a clue.
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Skunk I posted to you because you have the most warped view of the US I have ever encountered. Perhaps you should visit before making judgements.
[ 09-11-2003, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]
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