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Azred · 08-26-2003, 09:46 PM

It seems to me that being trained in Hungary and by Hungary are two different things. Besides, I don't think it will matter much in the long run, because the best training in the world will be useless if those being trained are just biding their time until they are placed in control so they may do what they please. Yes, that is cynical...but also probably quite realistic.

I agree with Timber vis-a-vis America's "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. However, I will take this one step further: since many in the world already accuse America of turning Iraq into a puppet and there are simultaneous complaints that we a) caused all the problems in the first place, b) shouldn't have gotten involved, c) should stay in, and d) should pull out then we might as well do ourselves a favor and take over Iraq completely. Our detractors are going to complain no matter what we do, so we might as well reap all the benefits possible while we can.
Childish and short-sighted? I don't believe so. Realistic? I hope so. In personal relationships the best choice is to ignore those who dislike you and steer your own course; I am simply applying this logic to national affairs. [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] Not even the neocons have the cajones to make that statement in public. Oh, well....

08-26-2003, 09:46 PM	#12
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	It seems to me that being trained in Hungary and by Hungary are two different things. Besides, I don't think it will matter much in the long run, because the best training in the world will be useless if those being trained are just biding their time until they are placed in control so they may do what they please. Yes, that is cynical...but also probably quite realistic. I agree with Timber vis-a-vis America's "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. However, I will take this one step further: since many in the world already accuse America of turning Iraq into a puppet and there are simultaneous complaints that we a) caused all the problems in the first place, b) shouldn't have gotten involved, c) should stay in, and d) should pull out then we might as well do ourselves a favor and take over Iraq completely. Our detractors are going to complain no matter what we do, so we might as well reap all the benefits possible while we can. Childish and short-sighted? I don't believe so. Realistic? I hope so. In personal relationships the best choice is to ignore those who dislike you and steer your own course; I am simply applying this logic to national affairs. [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] Not even the neocons have the cajones to make that statement in public. Oh, well.... __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.