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Originally posted by Faceman:
Okay let's clear something up.
I do not believe in god either. In fact I'm an agnostic.
The main point is not that god IS omnipotent, omniscient, yadayada
but that IF god exists he is omnipotent, omniscient, yadayada
Why?
Because this is the definition of god in the Bible.
So it's rather trivial: If the god from the Bible (i.e. the omnipotent, omniscient one) does exist he is omnipotent, omniscient. Duh!
Now Kant proved that god's existence or inexistence cannot be proved so I won't argue if god exists or not.
Now there is a third possibility. There is a god who is not omnipotent and omniscient and can be experienced scientifically but has just not yet been discovered by us. However here would be to argue if that still would make him a valid "god" and if yes: By what parameters (omnipotence obviously aside) does a being become a god?
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Very interesting reasoning, I like the first one. I've used it many times talking to fellow christians that maintianed there is no Extra terrestial life. The God I worship is capitable of overseeing an infinite amount of worlds, each teaming with life. He knows how many hairs, feathers, scales,anteni, or Kingon bumps are on each head, and can multiple that number by Pi then find the square root of the product before I can even ask Him.
[ 08-15-2003, 08:02 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]