[Faceman]

Okay let's clear something up.

I do not believe in god either. In fact I'm an agnostic.

The main point is not that god IS omnipotent, omniscient, yadayada
but that IF god exists he is omnipotent, omniscient, yadayada

Why?

Because this is the definition of god in the Bible.
So it's rather trivial: If the god from the Bible (i.e. the omnipotent, omniscient one) does exist he is omnipotent, omniscient. Duh!

Now Kant proved that god's existence or inexistence cannot be proved so I won't argue if god exists or not.

Now there is a third possibility. There is a god who is not omnipotent and omniscient and can be experienced scientifically but has just not yet been discovered by us. However here would be to argue if that still would make him a valid "god" and if yes: By what parameters (omnipotence obviously aside) does a being become a god?

[ 08-15-2003, 04:48 PM: Message edited by: Faceman ]