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Originally posted by Chewbacca:
When was Jesus crucified?
Mark 15:25 "And it was the third hour, and they crucified him."
vs.
John 19:14-15 "And about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out . . . crucify him."
It is an ad hoc defense to claim that there are two methods of reckoning time here. It has never been shown that this is the case.
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Er... yes it has. Why is the only retort Barker has to PROVEN FACTS that they are an "ad hoc" response? Pathetic parrying.
I got this from here:
http://www.tektonics.org/passovertime.html#time
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Contradiction is sometimes alleged in that Mark reports the crucifixion at the third hour (Mark 15:25) while John says the sixth.
The basic reply is that Mark and the other synoptics are using Jewish time (sunset to sunset; third hour = 9 AM); John is using Roman time, which is like ours (sixth hour = 6 AM - note that John says about the sixth hour; he's estimating).
(The former method is still used in the Middle East, and we and other Western nations use the latter.)
We know from the Synoptics that the crucifixion took over 6 hours. If John's sixth hour is really the Jewish sixth hour - noon, as unfortunately, even the Living Bible says - then the crucifixion lasted past the time when the Sabbath started.
John 19:31 says that the Jews didn't want the bodies left up over the Sabbath, which obviously means that the Sabbath hadn't started yet. So either John is giving us an extraordinarily short crucifixion, or he is giving us the time in Roman.
Since crucifixions were usually extended affairs, the latter assumption is more valid.
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If people recorded time differently, then they recorded time differently. Facts are facts. Calling it "ad hoc" is ridiculous. As the different times are STILL used it is possible journalists today could have the same time discrepency. It depends on WHO THEY ARE WRITING FOR.
[ 08-13-2003, 03:25 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ]