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Old 08-11-2003, 01:27 PM   #153
Yorick
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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
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By Yorick:

Islam, to bring up your example, is a wonderful example, because it TEACHINGS advocate violence, as Martyrdom is the only assurance a Muslim has of salvation. A "peaceful muslim" living in harmony with Jews and Christians and friends, advisors and confidantes is expressly living a life at odds with recommendations held in the Qu'ran and Hadith.
This goes against everything I have recently read or heard about the Muslim religion. Maybe this is another thread. Nevertheless, I offer this up to you, and to others -- IS THIS A VALID STATEMENT YOU'VE MADE????? [/QUOTE]Of course it is. I have read the Qu'ran and the relevent passages of the Hadith. I have compared them to the actions of suicide terrorists and found that in the light of such teachings, suicide terrorism actually makes perfectly logical sense. They are not lunatics devoid of reason, but following a particular line of thinking quite clearly seen in the Qu'ran and Hadith.

It is politically correct to pronounce Islam as a religion of peace - which it is to a degree - and gloss over the aspects I am talking about.

I have a pragmatic view that if that serves to enhance world peace, so be it. Bring it on. I also find it wonderful that a Muslim can have Christian friends. I dated a Mulsim girl, and may do so again soon. However, they are RECONCILING certain passages. Much as a Christian who goes to war is RECONCILING certain passages forbidding such activity.
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