[Moiraine]

Originally posted by Yorick: What benefits do you see Mouse?

I strongly suggest you read the article I mentioned above (this article). It is a good summary of the scientific researches that have been made so far about male homosexuality, it may give you new insights about how homosexuality is perceived in different human cultures and what it brings to human societies. It is a very dense and docuemented article, so I won't be quoting parts of it out of context, lest I end up quoting the entire article ! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Originally posted by Yorick: It could be that it's a natural weakener for the human race. Hetrosexuality is far less important to a race so numerically dominant over it's surroundings.?

The simple fact that many animal species, which are not dominant and have to struggle for survival, practice homosexuality, dismisses this argument.

Originally posted by Yorick: It is a reality, that a culture dominant at the top of humanity ends up being choked on the fruits of it's success and starts an inexorible decline. Homosexuality has often been linked to a sucessful and "decadent" society.

Not true Yorick - not in many human cultures. Read the article ! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Originally posted by Yorick: We need to look at our own species, at what are our strengths and weaknesses, what enables survival and perpetuation, and through THAT determine what is natural. We are at the top of the chain. For an evolutionist to look BACKWARDS down the chain is to see weaker species that we are superior to in every way, that we have progressed from, and through our strength, dominated.

Oh, so the core of your thinking is now unveiled. You worship a God namely in the name of love, but ultimately it is power that counts. We are "superior" because we dominate, eh ? No, evolutionists do NOT look at evolution this way, Yorick. Evolution is not a straight line from "worse" to "better", from "weaker" to "stronger". Evolution is the amazing story of adaptability of the living to ever changing life conditions. The human species likes to believe it is controlling its environment - but the deadly potential of WOMD, the climate changes from pollution, ..., show us clearly that it is not so. Past dominant species were those who were better adapted to their environment, future dominant species may arise who will be better adapted to the future state of the earth, and they may not be us. If we manage to blow up the earth through our mad race to more and more power, which will be the "better" species then ?

Originally posted by Chewbacca: Thank you Moiraine! Very, Very interesting indeed.

Thank you Chewie ! [img]smile.gif[/img] I was hoping we could go on discuss this topic based on scientific researches instead of on personal and cultural bias. I found this article very interesting because it provides a comprehensive summary of the researches by different areas of science, and because it provides insights into other cultures' views of homosexuality. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 08-10-2003, 06:04 AM: Message edited by: Moiraine ]