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Originally posted by Mouse:
I think you have provided your own answer here - it's patently obvious that "it occurs in nature" that humans will nurture their young until they are able to fend for themselves. Just as many other species do. Humans are part of the natural world after all. To argue that no natural laws or imperatives apply to the human race is utterly specious.
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I didn't argue that Mouse. I simply said, holding up nature as a justifier for human behaviour is groundless and pointless.
Infant care occurs in nature, but so does infant abandonment. A rigid caste system exists in nature. So many things humans have rejected in society exist in nature. So many situations have pro's and con's in nature.
There are species that do NOT practice homosexuality. Simply blindly and blanketly drumming up the occurence of a practice among some animals is hardly compelling.
We as humans are making choices. Some humasn choose to remove themselves from the animal kingdom. An evolutionist using nature as a defender of actions to a person against homosexuality for religious reasons, is like a religious person using the bible to prove something to the atheist!
You're not going to convinve the person because the point of reference is not universally held!
Aside from which one can go to nature and find justifiers the other way.
Oh so Dolphins engage in homosexual activity. A contestable point of itself, Dolphins do not have the natural enemies humans do. Their young are not born as dependent as human babies are. They are not suceptible to the same diseases or dangers.
Using the dolphin is irrelevent.
What is natural to humanity? That is te question.
We need to look at our own species, at what are our strengths and weaknesses, what enables survival and perpetuation, and through THAT determine what is natural. We are at the top of the chain. For an evolutionist to look BACKWARDS down the chain is to see weaker species that we are superior to in every way, that we have progressed from, and through our strength, dominated.