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Old 08-08-2003, 03:54 PM   #9
Chewbacca
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Join Date: July 18, 2001
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By Cloudbringer:
Chewbaca, that's not true. I have some friends who are NOT religious who disapprove of same sex marriages and homosexual relationships. So how is their belief a religious one? I don't think it's fair to categorize it as ONLY a religious belief, that seems a bit simplified to me. I realize it's easy to pick one group to blame for any idea one dislikes and make them the whipping boy or scapegoat as it were and I'm not saying religious people aren't in the 'against it' category, just that if you want to 'blame' someone, don't just pick them as the only targets!
I didnt say it was only a religous one, although I would love to hear a non-religous/moral-based argument against gay marriage and against gays in general.

The one I have heard one that had something to do with the prevailing notion of marriage as being male/female in society, but I have offered expert testimony that debunks the idea.

I have heard others call it unnatural, but behavior in nature debunks this as well.

I have heard others say it threatens the family unit, but experts again disagree.

So tell me what are these non-religious veiwpoints that dictates that gays shouldn't have marriage, or even be allowed to behave sexually as they seem fit as long as it harms no one, that haven't been de-bunked?

Besides, I was actually was arguing that this shouldn't neccessarily be solely a religous/moral based issue. That we should see it in the light of our governing system.

I argue we should let reason and the idea of equal civil rights take center stage. We should let fairness prevail. We should accept our diverse society and let freedom ring. No arguement against gay marriage or being gay can at the same time uphold any of these ideas with-out being duplicitous.

*Sigh* I still lack answers to my questions? Are they not valid questions or is it the truth that gays being married doesn't *really* effect anyone else's personal beliefs about marriage?
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