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Sir Taliesin · 07-24-2003, 03:51 PM

I think you all miss the point as to why they are showing the bodies on TV. May Iraqi people are expressing doubts that they "Dynamic dou" are dead. They obviously aren't going to believe us when we say we got them, so we have to give them some kind of evidence that they can understand, hence the pictures on TV. Now if you know of a better way that this could be done, why don't you give the Feds a ring and let them know your idea.

As for the US Army handing down "Cowboy Justice", why don't you go here and read LINK.
The Army didn't go in guns-a-blazin' as you seem to think they did.

"The dramatic assault, triggered by a tip from an informant on Monday, began at about 9:00 a.m. Tuesday.

Elite soldiers of Task Force 20, including the Army's Delta Force operatives, swiftly moved into assault positions while infantry from the 101st Airborne division set up a cordon around the villa to stop anyone from escaping.

About 10 a.m., American forces issued a demand for surrender through a bullhorn. But that was immediately answered by a barrage of machine-gun fire from inside the house. At that point, "things just went ballistic," said one participant. "Those guys put up a massive fight."

Using C-4 explosives, Task Force 20 members stormed through the iron front gate - the only viable entrance to the walled compound, participants said. From there, some began clearing the first floor, while others climbed back stairs and crossed the roof for other entry points.

Inside, however, the Delta troops were unable to break through inner walls of reinforced concrete where Uday, Qusay, and other defenders were holed up. Eventually, they pulled back, and the 101st pummeled the structure with multiple barrages of TOW wire-guided missiles, fire from Mark 19 grenade launchers, and Humvee-mounted .50-caliber machine guns, as well as 2.75-inch rockets from Kiowa helicopters." From the Christian Science Monitor

They were given a chance to surrender and they didn't take it. It also sounds like the house was built like a fortress! I dare say that had even one TOW missile hit my house, there wouldn't be much left standing. Yet from the pictures shown on TV and on the internet, it looks like the house could well be inhabited again. C-4 didn't even make a dent in it.

I know some of you said to starve them out, but I wonder how many Baath supporters would have shown up to help them had the Army simple surrounded them and waited for them to surrender. I bet a lot more people would have died.

[ 07-24-2003, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Sir Taliesin ]

07-24-2003, 03:51 PM	#62
Sir Taliesin Silver Dragon Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: Knoxville, TN USA Age: 62 Posts: 1,641	I think you all miss the point as to why they are showing the bodies on TV. May Iraqi people are expressing doubts that they "Dynamic dou" are dead. They obviously aren't going to believe us when we say we got them, so we have to give them some kind of evidence that they can understand, hence the pictures on TV. Now if you know of a better way that this could be done, why don't you give the Feds a ring and let them know your idea. As for the US Army handing down "Cowboy Justice", why don't you go here and read LINK. The Army didn't go in guns-a-blazin' as you seem to think they did. "The dramatic assault, triggered by a tip from an informant on Monday, began at about 9:00 a.m. Tuesday. Elite soldiers of Task Force 20, including the Army's Delta Force operatives, swiftly moved into assault positions while infantry from the 101st Airborne division set up a cordon around the villa to stop anyone from escaping. About 10 a.m., American forces issued a demand for surrender through a bullhorn. But that was immediately answered by a barrage of machine-gun fire from inside the house. At that point, "things just went ballistic," said one participant. "Those guys put up a massive fight." Using C-4 explosives, Task Force 20 members stormed through the iron front gate - the only viable entrance to the walled compound, participants said. From there, some began clearing the first floor, while others climbed back stairs and crossed the roof for other entry points. Inside, however, the Delta troops were unable to break through inner walls of reinforced concrete where Uday, Qusay, and other defenders were holed up. Eventually, they pulled back, and the 101st pummeled the structure with multiple barrages of TOW wire-guided missiles, fire from Mark 19 grenade launchers, and Humvee-mounted .50-caliber machine guns, as well as 2.75-inch rockets from Kiowa helicopters." From the Christian Science Monitor They were given a chance to surrender and they didn't take it. It also sounds like the house was built like a fortress! I dare say that had even one TOW missile hit my house, there wouldn't be much left standing. Yet from the pictures shown on TV and on the internet, it looks like the house could well be inhabited again. C-4 didn't even make a dent in it. I know some of you said to starve them out, but I wonder how many Baath supporters would have shown up to help them had the Army simple surrounded them and waited for them to surrender. I bet a lot more people would have died. [ 07-24-2003, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Sir Taliesin ] __________________ Sir Taliesin<br /><br />Hello... Good bye.