[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Mr. Mopery: quote: Originally posted by Animal: Clinton was real, down to earth. He represented the average Joe. I respect that a lot more than some prissy, draft dodger.

Um...actually, Clinton was a prissy draft dodger. He avoided the draft just as Bush did, though definitely with more panache.

I think Clinton was a much better politician and statesman (however you choose to interpret those things) than Bush. As is easily seen, I think Bush is a thick-witted kid who's ridden on the family fortune to office.

But that doesn't make Clinton any more respectable, despite his obvious talents.

I voted for Clinton but I still think he should have been impeached in a heartbeat for perjury. No matter how you slice it, he lied and the fact that the American public accepted it still pisses me off. His sex life was his own business, but lying under oath while president was a crime. [/QUOTE]I can agree with about half of what you say here, Mr. Mopery. Clinton was a better statesman, because he is willing to say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear and Bush isn't. Not knocking Clinton on that point, because that is what a good diplomat or statesman does...he disagrees with his opponents in a very "agreeable" manner.

But to say that he avoided the draft with more panache??? He just left the country...not much panache required to do that. If anything, I would say Bush had more panache. He avoided the draft but can still claim military experience on his resume'. As for him "not showing up"....that was all over an incident that occurred when he transferred from Texas to Louisana (IIRC). The paperwork didn't follow through in a timely manner, but I looked this up over a year ago when someone else made that same accusation. I actually found documentation that accounted for Bush's whereabouts during the entire period in question.

Now then, whether those records were authentic or not is another question, but they certainly appeared to be legitimate.

{I know you didn't make the accusation about Bush not showing up for his National Guard duty, but I figured I would go ahead and address that accusation while I was here}