[Talthyr Malkaviel]

Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: I agree with Yack, your example ignores a lot MagiK. How do you explain the fact that proportionally much smaller numbers of women and ethnic minorities get good educations and good jobs compared to white men? Are women and ethnic minorities naturally stupid, or lazy? No, the problem is that they don't get the same opportunities. Often they don't apply for these kind of things as it is made clear by the simple appearance of todays student, or employee, that they are not welcome. So this is also done to encourage people to actually apply in the first place. Basically, yes, positive discrimination contradicts the theory of equality, but it is very necessary to keep the same theory in practice. It shouldn't be needed, and it seems unfair on the individual level, but long term and on a macro scale this is necessary.

Indeed, and a perfect reason to have equal opportunities in schooling for ethnic minorities, which we now have, but the two are different roblems, now that we have equal opportunities in education doesn't mean that people should hire a certain amount of people if they wouldn't be quite as sutied to the job just to make up for unfairness in the past.