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Well, I was looking through some of the real far back pages for some other thread, but I found the thread asking Ziroc's permission, and I don't know if you and Caleb mean that you though it up earlier, but the actual birth if the HADB into IW is... and I quote...
"posted 06-18-2001 09:21 AM "
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Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br />  <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?
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