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Originally posted by Smeagol II:
First of all Magik i'm sorry if my post suggested that i have any kind of sympathy for the Al-Queda. I see a murder as a murder whether it was in pursuit of ideological goals or otherwise. And i believe the men responsible should be killed but i can't see how having a "War on Terrorism" will help one bit.
You say that America tries to make sure as few inocents die as possible but you have killed 5 times more innocent Afgans than you have members of Al-Queda.
Also you say that you must kill these men because of the way they treat women, of course what they are doing is dispicable but this has been happening for a long long time and you only act when you were attacked. If America really saw this as an issue then they would have been trying to stop it a long time ago.
Please don't take any of this personally it is just how i see it and there is no such thing as an entirely correct arguement as no-one can have all the facts.
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Ok Smeagol (or Gollum hehehehe) I try never to take things said in debate personally, but I have been guilty of and been duely chastised for being a bit vehement in my replies, so I want to ensure you realised I wasn't attacking you and that any negative emmotion you might detect is directed at terrorists. Now to respond
The "War on Terrorism" helps in many ways, one is that it kills the blood thirsty SOB's who commit and volunteer to commit the atrocities of terrorism. Two it sends a STRONG message that "If you mess with us we are gonna lay the SMACKDOWN on you and you will loose more than you gain". In dealing with terrorists it is like dealing with a bully in school. If you run in fear, or run to a teacher, you show your self to be a weak target and invite future attacks on you.
Your numbers of 5 times more innocent casualties than terror Al-queda or taliban casulties is wrong. And you cant seperate the Taliban form the Al-queda since they were virtually one in the same...with one supplying resources and shelter to the other. I don't have the exact numbers on hand but there have been only a handful or reported US caused casualties that were not intentionally targeted.
I say you must kill these men because of how they treat women and children, because of how they devalue life and target innocents rather than military or political targets. As men and leaders of the defense of the USA, the Government and the Military must attack these scum wherever and whenever they can be targeted.
Personally it is my own personal belief that the Taliban, the Al-queda and all governments and organizations that back them have abrogated their right to exist, to breathe to do anything but fertilize the grounds as little bits of scrap.
There [img]smile.gif[/img] Im done, and no I didn't take any of your posts as personal, again Im just trying to address the issues and not be emmotioanlly involved [img]smile.gif[/img]