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Thoran · 03-11-2002, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by John D Harris:

I remember hearing something about the pilot Last year also. It was in the spring or early summer,if my olde farte's memory hasn't failed me

As for going to war with Iraq, if we do what is the rest of the world going to do? The populations of our allies will protest in the streets, their Govt's will make public statments of disgust. Will they try to go to war with us? NO! Will they try economic sanctions? NO! their economies are to closely tied to ours, remember this is a global economy. Will they cut diplomatic ties? NO! In the halls of their Govt. they know Iraq is a loose cannon. They will go for a UN resulution (sp?) condemming the USA, we'll veto the res. there will be a big stink about it. There will be massive amounts of editorials writen in their newspapers, spoken on their TV's. They may even get a few politicains elected that will promise to do something. But when they get into power and see all the secret facts that ALL countries Govts. don't let the general public in on they'll quietly drop it.ie: get caught up in domestic matters. The real question is do we (USA) want to put up with stuff for a couple of years? Or do we wait until "Sodanm Insane" feel he can launch an attack using weapons of mass destruction on Israel. Israel WILL reltailiate and turn Iraq into a glass parking lot. The rest of the Arabs will jump into it and Israel will turn them into glass parking lots too. Then we have to deal with the radation, fallout and all that crap. Hopefully one of our Allies that is in a position to take "Sodanm Insane" out will do so and spare the world all the flak will come about, if He is allowed to continue in power.

Alright let me have it.

We would burn up any political currency we currently have by doing it that way... not to mention validating the beliefs of many of the people that have been claiming all we are is autocratic somnbiches. Economic Imperialists... we don't need to conquer... we just dictate from a position of economic control and others are forced to comply. IMO this is not the time for us to get heavy handed... we've proven time and time again that while building concensus is difficult, it's a MUCH more viable approach to solving these problems in the long run.

Of course there's a lot of appeal in the US for the idea of just doing the job and having it done with... one of the policies I live by is something an exec told me years ago...
"It's always better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission"

[ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: Thoran ]

03-11-2002, 10:14 PM	#10
Thoran Galvatron Join Date: January 10, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Age: 57 Posts: 2,109	quote: Originally posted by John D Harris: I remember hearing something about the pilot Last year also. It was in the spring or early summer,if my olde farte's memory hasn't failed me As for going to war with Iraq, if we do what is the rest of the world going to do? The populations of our allies will protest in the streets, their Govt's will make public statments of disgust. Will they try to go to war with us? NO! Will they try economic sanctions? NO! their economies are to closely tied to ours, remember this is a global economy. Will they cut diplomatic ties? NO! In the halls of their Govt. they know Iraq is a loose cannon. They will go for a UN resulution (sp?) condemming the USA, we'll veto the res. there will be a big stink about it. There will be massive amounts of editorials writen in their newspapers, spoken on their TV's. They may even get a few politicains elected that will promise to do something. But when they get into power and see all the secret facts that ALL countries Govts. don't let the general public in on they'll quietly drop it.ie: get caught up in domestic matters. The real question is do we (USA) want to put up with stuff for a couple of years? Or do we wait until "Sodanm Insane" feel he can launch an attack using weapons of mass destruction on Israel. Israel WILL reltailiate and turn Iraq into a glass parking lot. The rest of the Arabs will jump into it and Israel will turn them into glass parking lots too. Then we have to deal with the radation, fallout and all that crap. Hopefully one of our Allies that is in a position to take "Sodanm Insane" out will do so and spare the world all the flak will come about, if He is allowed to continue in power. Alright let me have it. We would burn up any political currency we currently have by doing it that way... not to mention validating the beliefs of many of the people that have been claiming all we are is autocratic somnbiches. Economic Imperialists... we don't need to conquer... we just dictate from a position of economic control and others are forced to comply. IMO this is not the time for us to get heavy handed... we've proven time and time again that while building concensus is difficult, it's a MUCH more viable approach to solving these problems in the long run. Of course there's a lot of appeal in the US for the idea of just doing the job and having it done with... one of the policies I live by is something an exec told me years ago... "It's always better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission" [ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: Thoran ]