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Old 03-10-2002, 08:53 AM   #2
Ronn_Bman
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Originally posted by skywalker:
Please correct me if I am wrong (and I'm sure someone will).

1)The USA has more nuclear weapons than any single country.

2)The US government does not want other countries to make nuclear weapons, but it is okay for the US to have them.

3)The United States does not want other countries to tests nuclear weapons, but we are about to start doing it ourselves.

4)The US wants Russia to reduce the number of nukes they have and so will we. This does not mean destruction of them (at least at our end), it means dismantling them or taking them offline for possible repostioning or later use.

5)The Pentagon has informed the Congress it is planning for the possible use of nuclear weapons against countries that threaten us.

They are preparing contingency plans for using them against 7 nations: China, Russia, Iraq (big surprise), North Korea (2nd big surprise), Iran (last big surprise), Libya, and Syria. (This from the LA Times.)

Think about what happens to this world if even one of these nukes fly.
Think of the fallout.
Think of the legacy we will leave for our children.

I know this is being a little over the top and I apologise, but the bigger danger is how other nations will react to this. We could blame the media for leaking this, but that's not really fair. Just that this adminstration would think of doing this, means BIG trouble for the 3rd stone from the Sun. We a creating a Cold War tha dwarfs the last one. The nuclear clock again approaches midnight.

This Administration is leading us down the highway to Hell and will take the rest of the World with it.

Unfortunately, there is nothing we can do, the dictator is in control.


Mark



1.) I'm not completely sure about that, but I do know that prior to the 70's limitation talks the Russians had more nuclear weapons.

2.) As far as I'm aware no nations want other nations to develop nuclear weapons. It's no more OK for the US to have them than any of the other nations which current do. I haven't heard of any of the nuclear nations saying, "we have them, so let everyone have them."

3.) I'm not aware of any sceduled nuclear testing. If you are talking about the ABM shield tests, those aren't nukes, they destroy incoming nukes.

4.) Both the US and Russia have reduced the number of nuclear weapons and the talks continue to reduce the numbers even more. The nukes that have been dismantled are not stored for later repositioning, that would not be a reduction at all. They are completely dismantled under mutual observation. They send observers here and we send them there.

5.) I knew someone would post about this. It is not a "sky is falling" scenario. Every administration since Truman's has put forth contingency plans for the "nuclear option". Every admininstration reviews the policy currently in place and then makes it's own suggestions. This is not a plan to start attacking the 7 nations listed, it is a contingency plan. All nations with nuclear weapons do this.

There is no dictator in control of the US and you know it. You are over reacting to the report. Every article I've read, and every report I've seen always quantifies this contingency plan by saying, it's nothing new.

It is doubtful any of the nations on the list would be surprised to find their name there. You can bet those with their own nuclear weapons also have plans against the US. You are taking the existance of a contingency plan and making it seem like Bush is ready to launch against the world. This is so completely untrue.

Would you really be surprised to find out the Russians still target the US? The Chinese? Then why would you be surprised to know we target them? Is this the first you've heard of a US nuclear plan?They target US, we target them, and yet we continue to trade with them and deal with them as we always have. Nothing changed at the end of the Cold War, as far as contingency plans go, for anyone.

[ 03-10-2002: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

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