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03-07-2002, 06:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Davros:

Hi MagiK - yes, I am aware that your location is displayed in your profile - I was maKing the point that it didn't need to be, because all and sundry can see where you're coming from via your replies.

You again missed the point- Australia's steel manufactureres aren't doing poorly - they are extremely competitive in an open playing field. In case you hadn't noted - that playing field has been changed. Yes, our government could play tit for tat on subsidies. Thing is we also have a belief on free trade, and we try not to be so hypocritical about it. It is not just something we espouse at election time or when visiting that country or area.

I understand your defense of his actions, but thinK you are being just a tad blinKered on the hypocrisy issue. So man goes on to prove blacK is white and gets Killed at the next zebra crossing. I wasn't trying to get personal when I addressed my first post at you, but it was a way of noting the obvious - anyone with a contrary opinin on the thread had already recieved a MagiKal reply. I knew mine was coming .

And what do you mean by slandering me when you were really replying to Donut - are you implying that we are the same person? Hey Donut - we have a Konspiracy theorist here .

Nonono!!! Im sorry I did not mean to imply you and Donut were the same [img]smile.gif[/img] I mixed my replies..I do that a lot especially when Im replying from work..I apologize for that. At any rate, I don't think Im being blinkered [img]smile.gif[/img] I like that term though [img]smile.gif[/img] I just realize that Wanting to do something and promising to try and do it in an election campaign and having to live with realities that are only revealed to you after you get into office are part and parcel of how things work... Bush doesnt make the economic policies...he does what his cabinet members say he has to, of course he can push for the things he thinks are more important but usually presidents allow the experts in the cabinet draw up the policies and then as president he tries to pick the ones most akin to his own personal beliefs. I dont see it as being hypocritical. I see it as the way the game is played.

Personally I never liked tarrifs on anything BUT i realize that they are going to exist and that some countries just will never agree to drop them...indeed some countries can't afford to drop them.

But the speaches someone found on here and posted aside Tarrifs and free trade were not a major "plank" in this past election. The election was fought over military, foreign relations, welfare, medicare, and a whole host of issues, but neither candidate made much of an issue over free trade and tarrifs. Or if they did the News agencies here in Washington faile dot point it out on the nightly news as much as they did the other issues.

Anyway, I love Aussieland, and NZ too [img]smile.gif[/img] both high on my places to visit..Im really torqued that I didnt get to stop by either place when I was in my globe trotting youth.

03-07-2002, 06:34 PM	#26
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	quote: Originally posted by Davros: Hi MagiK - yes, I am aware that your location is displayed in your profile - I was maKing the point that it didn't need to be, because all and sundry can see where you're coming from via your replies. You again missed the point- Australia's steel manufactureres aren't doing poorly - they are extremely competitive in an open playing field. In case you hadn't noted - that playing field has been changed. Yes, our government could play tit for tat on subsidies. Thing is we also have a belief on free trade, and we try not to be so hypocritical about it. It is not just something we espouse at election time or when visiting that country or area. I understand your defense of his actions, but thinK you are being just a tad blinKered on the hypocrisy issue. So man goes on to prove blacK is white and gets Killed at the next zebra crossing. I wasn't trying to get personal when I addressed my first post at you, but it was a way of noting the obvious - anyone with a contrary opinin on the thread had already recieved a MagiKal reply. I knew mine was coming . And what do you mean by slandering me when you were really replying to Donut - are you implying that we are the same person? Hey Donut - we have a Konspiracy theorist here . Nonono!!! Im sorry I did not mean to imply you and Donut were the same [img]smile.gif[/img] I mixed my replies..I do that a lot especially when Im replying from work..I apologize for that. At any rate, I don't think Im being blinkered [img]smile.gif[/img] I like that term though [img]smile.gif[/img] I just realize that Wanting to do something and promising to try and do it in an election campaign and having to live with realities that are only revealed to you after you get into office are part and parcel of how things work... Bush doesnt make the economic policies...he does what his cabinet members say he has to, of course he can push for the things he thinks are more important but usually presidents allow the experts in the cabinet draw up the policies and then as president he tries to pick the ones most akin to his own personal beliefs. I dont see it as being hypocritical. I see it as the way the game is played. Personally I never liked tarrifs on anything BUT i realize that they are going to exist and that some countries just will never agree to drop them...indeed some countries can't afford to drop them. But the speaches someone found on here and posted aside Tarrifs and free trade were not a major "plank" in this past election. The election was fought over military, foreign relations, welfare, medicare, and a whole host of issues, but neither candidate made much of an issue over free trade and tarrifs. Or if they did the News agencies here in Washington faile dot point it out on the nightly news as much as they did the other issues. Anyway, I love Aussieland, and NZ too [img]smile.gif[/img] both high on my places to visit..Im really torqued that I didnt get to stop by either place when I was in my globe trotting youth.