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Originally posted by Donut:
I would also like to distance my self from the Looney Left of IW (Barry & Epona). 
Well, whilst I don't mind being considered both loony and left I have to point out that most of your post was exactly the same as mine. The House of Lords have appropriate powers and have been extremely useful at various times in checking the executive. If you read back you will find I actually argued for a second chamber unelected on this basis. What I disagree with is your belief that it is representative, or in any way fit to be part of the constitution in its present form.
I personally say that dismissing the notion of a class driven society is extremely premature for Britain. You have to look beyond conventional class boundaries, this is not upper class and lower class we are talking here. I am saying that there is a very definite political class in operation. For example did you know that Irvine ran for a seat twice in the 70's and failed. Now he is the third citizen of the country, despite being rejected by the electorate twice. We have a command premiereship, and who advises the Prime Minister? I am not talking simple spin doctoring here, I am talking about the blatant political adivsors. The country is run from Downing Street not Parliament Square and how many people voted for the Prime Minister? What happens in the political mile of the city of London is very different from the views of the public on the whole. And what can we do about? Vote for another member of the same political class who is committed to window dressing the same system. Great.
So my views differ from yours. No big deal, I think we can both survive the experience. Even if counselling is required.