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Sazerac · 02-06-2002, 02:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Lavindathar:
Thats cool, thanx Saz. This is what being a great mod is all about, not shouting at me for my opinions (i had a feeling I would get flamed for what I wrote)...so thanx.

But all I can respond with is: if that case could happen, then that child needs a new set of parents (once again, this is a cultural difference)...and secondly, Ziroc isn't providing the material, so could he really be held responsible?? I don't know, so is there someone in the legal profession who could clarify?? Or did you say it knowing that Saz?

Hmm, you've just posted again!!

See, why have u started kicking off about it? I am just querying things, as it is hard for me to understand...their must be a very big cultural difference, and its hard to grasp. You should realise that I am just trying to understand what happens over there, and it is very hard for me to do. So please dont shout.

[ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Lavindathar ]

*sigh* Ok, first off, Lavi, the reason I posted what I did the second time, was that you seem to me (as I interpreted) to be rather unhappy with how things are being run here. I wasn't shouting at you, nor telling you to go away...but I know that if I was unhappy somewhere, I wouldn't want to stay. The reason I thought you were unhappy was that you keep bringing up this subject; that's all.

Second: I agree with you fully about the kids and their parents. It's sad to say, but a large majority of parents here have no problem making kids, but have a BIG problem with taking responsibility for them. They are only too ready to shove responsibility onto something else. The kid does something bad? Sue the TV station for showing that violent movie the other night. The kid makes poor grades in school? Sue the school district for not educating the kid. Sue, blame, rally...do ANYTHING but admit that maybe its THEIR fault or the kid's fault for messing up.

Unfortunately, here in the States, we have a legal system that is largely based on the deferring of personal responsibility. We have old women who sue McDonald's for serving them too hot a cup of coffee when they were dumb enough to drive off and spill it in their own lap, for example.

Based on the laws of the U.S. at this time, a network administrator or a webmaster CAN be held responsible for the content that is on his or her site, whether or not they know about it. And, believe it or not, our laws are far more lenient than other country's laws regarding online content. (I think France and Germany are far more strict; maybe Ramon or Moraine could fill in here?) So that's why we have to be as conservative as we are here.

Anyway, my intent wasn't to peeve you. I hope this makes my explanation a bit clearer.

Cheers,

02-06-2002, 02:53 PM	#58
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	quote: Originally posted by Lavindathar: Thats cool, thanx Saz. This is what being a great mod is all about, not shouting at me for my opinions (i had a feeling I would get flamed for what I wrote)...so thanx. But all I can respond with is: if that case could happen, then that child needs a new set of parents (once again, this is a cultural difference)...and secondly, Ziroc isn't providing the material, so could he really be held responsible?? I don't know, so is there someone in the legal profession who could clarify?? Or did you say it knowing that Saz? Hmm, you've just posted again!! See, why have u started kicking off about it? I am just querying things, as it is hard for me to understand...their must be a very big cultural difference, and its hard to grasp. You should realise that I am just trying to understand what happens over there, and it is very hard for me to do. So please dont shout. [ 02-06-2002: Message edited by: Lavindathar ] sigh Ok, first off, Lavi, the reason I posted what I did the second time, was that you seem to me (as I interpreted) to be rather unhappy with how things are being run here. I wasn't shouting at you, nor telling you to go away...but I know that if I was unhappy somewhere, I wouldn't want to stay. The reason I thought you were unhappy was that you keep bringing up this subject; that's all. Second: I agree with you fully about the kids and their parents. It's sad to say, but a large majority of parents here have no problem making kids, but have a BIG problem with taking responsibility for them. They are only too ready to shove responsibility onto something else. The kid does something bad? Sue the TV station for showing that violent movie the other night. The kid makes poor grades in school? Sue the school district for not educating the kid. Sue, blame, rally...do ANYTHING but admit that maybe its THEIR fault or the kid's fault for messing up. Unfortunately, here in the States, we have a legal system that is largely based on the deferring of personal responsibility. We have old women who sue McDonald's for serving them too hot a cup of coffee when they were dumb enough to drive off and spill it in their own lap, for example. Based on the laws of the U.S. at this time, a network administrator or a webmaster CAN be held responsible for the content that is on his or her site, whether or not they know about it. And, believe it or not, our laws are far more lenient than other country's laws regarding online content. (I think France and Germany are far more strict; maybe Ramon or Moraine could fill in here?) So that's why we have to be as conservative as we are here. Anyway, my intent wasn't to peeve you. I hope this makes my explanation a bit clearer. Cheers, __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."