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Larry_OHF · 02-02-2002, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Tarox:
As always the threads at this forum involving Religion turn into a heated argument

This is no where near a heated argument.

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Many of the worlds problems are because of this thing called Religion
Also lots of wars and battles and people have died over the history of man because of Religion

Religion is perhaps the real evil in the world because it divides people so much....everyone has their imaginary god of deity or whatever they think is real and for some reason this often leads to fighting with non believers....from arguments and sarcastic remarks all the way upto full scale war.

That assumption is incorrect. Religion in of itself is not evil. How it is used is. Just like the internet. I can use it for good intent or bad intent. I can use a gun for protection or aggression. I can use my knowledge to help or to hurt. What I do with religion is what I am. Good or evil. If I corrupt religion's name by using it to promote hatred and wars...my actions condemn my own name and my social status, but not the religion that I carried with me. It is not the fault of religion that men want to conquer. It is man's inconquerable spirit that wants to conquer.

The KKK was an evil bunch of white boys running around killing the blacks, and were using the Bible to prove thier point. I read those same verses...and did not see it that way. They were merely using the Bible to hide behind, while they themsleves may or may not have understood the very words that they were using against the black race.

Religion defines a person. Religion is what a person is.
If I told you that I was of one particular sect or another...you would know what values I hold dear, what activities I perform or do not perform, and you would know whether or not you and I could share similar interests.

Example: I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly known by many as the Mormons. From that, you know that I do not smoke and I do not drink, as doing so would have me shunned by even my own wife. I can tell you that I hold the position of Executive Secretary for my bishop, and now you know that I keep my covenants that I have made to live a certain lifestyle, as a person that does not do what they are taught to do would not be in positions of authority. You would then, of course, not ask me over for Sunday-night football and would I bring the drinks, as you know that I would not condone to such.
If I knew that you were a Jehova's Witness, I would not try to sell you a flag of your country, as you would not believe in putting faith and attention to a supposed "vain image". Yet, you and I need not kill one another over this...because you are who you are and I am who I am, and both of us can live happy lives, as next door neighbors.

[ 02-02-2002: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

02-02-2002, 12:22 AM	#37
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 49 Posts: 14,759	quote: Originally posted by Tarox: As always the threads at this forum involving Religion turn into a heated argument This is no where near a heated argument. quote: Many of the worlds problems are because of this thing called Religion Also lots of wars and battles and people have died over the history of man because of Religion Religion is perhaps the real evil in the world because it divides people so much....everyone has their imaginary god of deity or whatever they think is real and for some reason this often leads to fighting with non believers....from arguments and sarcastic remarks all the way upto full scale war. That assumption is incorrect. Religion in of itself is not evil. How it is used is. Just like the internet. I can use it for good intent or bad intent. I can use a gun for protection or aggression. I can use my knowledge to help or to hurt. What I do with religion is what I am. Good or evil. If I corrupt religion's name by using it to promote hatred and wars...my actions condemn my own name and my social status, but not the religion that I carried with me. It is not the fault of religion that men want to conquer. It is man's inconquerable spirit that wants to conquer. The KKK was an evil bunch of white boys running around killing the blacks, and were using the Bible to prove thier point. I read those same verses...and did not see it that way. They were merely using the Bible to hide behind, while they themsleves may or may not have understood the very words that they were using against the black race. Religion defines a person. Religion is what a person is. If I told you that I was of one particular sect or another...you would know what values I hold dear, what activities I perform or do not perform, and you would know whether or not you and I could share similar interests. Example: I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly known by many as the Mormons. From that, you know that I do not smoke and I do not drink, as doing so would have me shunned by even my own wife. I can tell you that I hold the position of Executive Secretary for my bishop, and now you know that I keep my covenants that I have made to live a certain lifestyle, as a person that does not do what they are taught to do would not be in positions of authority. You would then, of course, not ask me over for Sunday-night football and would I bring the drinks, as you know that I would not condone to such. If I knew that you were a Jehova's Witness, I would not try to sell you a flag of your country, as you would not believe in putting faith and attention to a supposed "vain image". Yet, you and I need not kill one another over this...because you are who you are and I am who I am, and both of us can live happy lives, as next door neighbors. [ 02-02-2002: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]