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Originally posted by Epona:
I'm finding this highly amusing - where the heck do you get your 'facts'? I am not a historical revisionist, I am an archaeologist. We are talking pre-history. Which sites do you base your interpretation on?
Unlike you I graduated quite some time ago..back when they still taught things like science and history in the public schools (yes I know you live in the UK and not the USA) but my point is, I am not going to call up book titles and author names, and yes I know some theories have been revised but what I said was correct. You could post some controverting facts or theories, but in the end, it was men who went out and explored, who conquered the world, who waged the wars, who plundered and pillaged and in general caused the advances and the mayhem. Women have not been the pioneers in general, again I know there were historical exception but the Madam Curries and the Joan of Arcs and the Amazonian women were the exceptions. Can you show me evidence of or any indication that women spearheaded these activities? There is no real evidence that I have seen made public that women were ever treated more than chattle in the ancient world on a regular basis. Exceptions do exist but again the "NORM" was subservient and less influential wome though I will grant that women held a certain amount of influence but it was usually in a less overt way, it was behind closed doors. If I feel like it when I get home I might post a few history titles for you...but since I have a dinner date (which I as the male am paying for) I may not have the time. Like it or not, untill recent modern times, women were at best second class citizens for the most part. And still are in a large part of the world.
I realize that the very committed feminists do not want to acknowledge these things and when they do they tend to just shove it all off on the fact that men are pigs.
PS. You asked me about references and proofs but I notice you didnt post any controverting publications.