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Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric:
America did NOT officially declare war on Osama, the Taliban, or El-Quada...President Bush declared a generic "war on terrorism". This allows them to circumvent the Geneva Convention, and keeping them in Cuba prevents them from seeking legal recourse in our own Judicial System (not for lack of trying on the parts of several human-rights groups).
what? are you really saying this??? there is NO way you can "cirumvent" the geneva convention. thats what it is there for! no government can "circumvent it"!!! if it was that way every single government in the world would just declare a "generic" war on people we dont like and wear sandals, and then be allowed to "circumvent" it.
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Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric:
When you become concerned about the rights and treatment of these prisoners, take a moment to consider the rights of the 5000 people laying buried underneath the rubble of the World Trade Center. Think about the 500+ children whose parents never showed up to take them home from day care that day. Think of the spouses who kissed their loved ones goodbye that morning...not knowing that would be the last kiss they ever gave them. Think of the jackets that hang in silent tribute to the firefighters who will never wear them again in stations throughout the city. Think of the passengers on the planes,especially Flight 93. They were the only ones who knew what was really going on...and they made a decision to die fighting. There is no way to measure the lives saved by their sacrifice.
My point is this, the prisoners in Cuba are NOT the victims in this case...they are the instigators...and deserved to be treated as such.
but it doesnt matter if they are the victims or not. OBVIOUSLY they arent. but by denying them their rights the us gov is doing exactly the same as them. even if they are instigators, they still deserve fair treatment. what al'quaida did was murderous, and i dont think anybody here thinks otherwise.