Thread: Human nature
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Old 01-18-2002, 03:34 PM   #20
Thoran
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Join Date: January 10, 2002
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Interesting... so you're saying that socialism believes that todays society is a perversion of human nature? I personally would find that a hard position to defend, it relies on conclusions that in my opinion are hard to draw.

Such as...

-Greed is a new phenomina... I guess I just can't believe that, greed is based on the desire for success which is driven by natural selection.
-Capitalism is a moral system... Capitalism is a social system, not a moral code.
-The moral system governing people in capitalistic society is bases on "animal" instincts. The social system that forms the basis of capitalistic society is "individual rights". The success of capitalism over socialism is due to the fact that "individual rights" more closely aligns with human base motivations than socialist "group" rights.
-"economic and social foundations of our lives are based on the idea that you have to worry about yourself and not other people" - infers that worrying about yourself is an impulse imposed by society. In reality "self-interest" is demanded by natural selection and thus reinforces the alignment of capitalism with humanity.

In my opinion none of the above statements are easily defended concepts, because they attempt to establish that the rules that govern all of nature don't apply to us. As I said earlier I would love to say that humans could overcome these base needs... but at this point in time I don't think it's possible.

Humanity is not ready for true Socialism.
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