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Originally posted by Lioness: In response to your title, NOT ME! But I do know, that for whatever reason, these situations arise, and I feel sorry for the girls/women who are in these relationships. Perhaps, it is low self-esteem, or the portrayal of the "bad boy" or maybe the guy is sweet until they start going out, when he becomes mean, and she feels like there is no way out of it. I am sorry for you and your ex-girlfriend Jorath, and I hope she realizes she needs to find a way out of her abusive relationship. *hugs* Lioness

yeah right, how do you know the girls are not mentally abusing guys?? jesus