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Harkoliar · 10-06-2001, 01:55 PM

Origianlly Posted by Melusine
Yes, that was exactly what I was trying to say, thanks for paraphrasing it better!
(I do agree that a positive stance can make all the difference, I didn't agree that you can always choose to find a way out, because sometimes there isn't one)

no prob!

LOL - I was going to ask you about Hark - but in Dutch, it denotes a certain gardening tool...hehe, Har it is then

Hardy Har Har

didnt know that Hark is just a tool

,thanks for that 2c...

to ALL ,
as much fun as it is now debating with all of you guys right now, i feel that its wwwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyy past my bedtime and im really sleepy. my original post is long gone and i think i should start anew with that kind of topic and change this title of the thread

to Lord Shield, Neb, Melusine and 250, thanks for this interesting debate, i will come back later ,8 hrs from now, to check on the progress of this debate (if you guys are still up to it by then. hehe!). as i said earlier, i dont mind a debate among you guys, i just want to make sure that it doesnt go into a full-rage debating match, so lets just keep it "civilized" or "polite" PLEASE? . gudnyt

ps: one last post

Originally posted by 250
Harkoliar, hmm, to clear my opinions here
I am more focusing on how live people should react to events, other than predict, or control in your case, what events come to their lives next

by controlling thoughts, feelings, we control who we are, we make who we are, and we are where we are by that choice

a disastor can mean an opportunity at the same time.

go back to the beggars:
there could be many reasons why they are poor. a fire burnt his house, but it is how he reacted to that problem guided his life after that fateful event. (I am being overly simplistic here, but if you look carefully, it is true)

you trust some blindly, and he cheated all your money away. why did you trust him in the first place? how did he get your bank account number?
and even after that, you can choose to feel hurt the rest of your life, or you can choose to learn

your child died from an accident: choose to live in depression the rest of your life. or choose to let go that feeling and make your own life better

you were picked on pretty badly in childhood because you were talented, and you think you are not worthy, well. you choose to believe you are not worthy, you choose to believe you deserved being picked on, you choose not to see the truth of those bad people

you are intelligent, and is among the tiny portion of the population. you can choose to feel lonely, and choose to feel being insulted when people express their disbelief in your intelligence. or you can choose to use your brain constructively to create happiness

you are born with disablity, that is an easy example, no need to discuss here. I have a web page made by a child who could not walk, with only one hand, cannot talk... I can feel her attitude of life just by reading what she wrote... tears wet my eyes

you are born ugly... com'on, time to celebrate you are alive, healthy and has a family!

you are a stuter, well, choose to stay home then, choose to not interact with people, choose to shut yourself off, choose to ....

you are preganant after a night with your boyfriend... wise choice
how you deal with that? still, your life in your hand to make, CHOOSE!

you are divoced. did you observe the potental problems in marriage? have you being too weak to stand up and say "NO!" to your relationship?

you are having problems with your parents. did you not ignore them for 30 years? did you not spend every weekend in your office instead of going to their house and see them? did you actually know your mother injured her back after falling from the stairs? did you actually know it was your fault because you told her the week before you would fix the stairs?

your child hates you. well, where were you when they heard your promise to play baseball with them? did you know your son has a football game on friday? did you know your daughter was going out with 3 guys?

by whose choices you are where you are? YOU

isnt is what i just said where in.. (on what i understood so far) that positive attitude about a certain event will help change yourself to a positive effect

what is the difference? from what i have posted?

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Revived I Am to hunt this world... Banish ye evil or face my wrath...

[This message has been edited by Harkoliar (edited 10-06-2001).]

10-06-2001, 01:55 PM	#77
Harkoliar Jack Burton Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Philippines, but now Harbor City Sydney Age: 42 Posts: 5,556	Origianlly Posted by Melusine Yes, that was exactly what I was trying to say, thanks for paraphrasing it better! (I do agree that a positive stance can make all the difference, I didn't agree that you can always choose to find a way out, because sometimes there isn't one) no prob! LOL - I was going to ask you about Hark - but in Dutch, it denotes a certain gardening tool...hehe, Har it is then Hardy Har Har didnt know that Hark is just a tool ,thanks for that 2c... to ALL , as much fun as it is now debating with all of you guys right now, i feel that its wwwwwwaaaaaaayyyyyy past my bedtime and im really sleepy. my original post is long gone and i think i should start anew with that kind of topic and change this title of the thread to Lord Shield, Neb, Melusine and 250, thanks for this interesting debate, i will come back later ,8 hrs from now, to check on the progress of this debate (if you guys are still up to it by then. hehe!). as i said earlier, i dont mind a debate among you guys, i just want to make sure that it doesnt go into a full-rage debating match, so lets just keep it "civilized" or "polite" PLEASE? . gudnyt ps: one last post Originally posted by 250 Harkoliar, hmm, to clear my opinions here I am more focusing on how live people should react to events, other than predict, or control in your case, what events come to their lives next by controlling thoughts, feelings, we control who we are, we make who we are, and we are where we are by that choice a disastor can mean an opportunity at the same time. go back to the beggars: there could be many reasons why they are poor. a fire burnt his house, but it is how he reacted to that problem guided his life after that fateful event. (I am being overly simplistic here, but if you look carefully, it is true) you trust some blindly, and he cheated all your money away. why did you trust him in the first place? how did he get your bank account number? and even after that, you can choose to feel hurt the rest of your life, or you can choose to learn your child died from an accident: choose to live in depression the rest of your life. or choose to let go that feeling and make your own life better you were picked on pretty badly in childhood because you were talented, and you think you are not worthy, well. you choose to believe you are not worthy, you choose to believe you deserved being picked on, you choose not to see the truth of those bad people you are intelligent, and is among the tiny portion of the population. you can choose to feel lonely, and choose to feel being insulted when people express their disbelief in your intelligence. or you can choose to use your brain constructively to create happiness you are born with disablity, that is an easy example, no need to discuss here. I have a web page made by a child who could not walk, with only one hand, cannot talk... I can feel her attitude of life just by reading what she wrote... tears wet my eyes you are born ugly... com'on, time to celebrate you are alive, healthy and has a family! you are a stuter, well, choose to stay home then, choose to not interact with people, choose to shut yourself off, choose to .... you are preganant after a night with your boyfriend... wise choice how you deal with that? still, your life in your hand to make, CHOOSE! you are divoced. did you observe the potental problems in marriage? have you being too weak to stand up and say "NO!" to your relationship? you are having problems with your parents. did you not ignore them for 30 years? did you not spend every weekend in your office instead of going to their house and see them? did you actually know your mother injured her back after falling from the stairs? did you actually know it was your fault because you told her the week before you would fix the stairs? your child hates you. well, where were you when they heard your promise to play baseball with them? did you know your son has a football game on friday? did you know your daughter was going out with 3 guys? by whose choices you are where you are? YOU isnt is what i just said where in.. (on what i understood so far) that positive attitude about a certain event will help change yourself to a positive effect what is the difference? from what i have posted? ------------------ Revived I Am to hunt this world... Banish ye evil or face my wrath... [This message has been edited by Harkoliar (edited 10-06-2001).]