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Old 09-26-2001, 01:04 PM   #20
Rikard
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Originally posted by Father Bronze:
Official Grammarian here. Since I am an English teacher and have taught grammar for over 10 years, I figure I better jump in.

The problem isn't with "doesn't" and "don't" the problem (as accurately reported earlier) is with "the public." Subject-Verb agreement rules state that the subject must agree with the verb. Thus the verb form of "to do" must agree with the subject "public."

You would use doesn't with a singular (for example: Ryan doesn't agree with his English teacher). You would use don't with a plural (for example: The members of the forum don't agree).

Public falls into one of those strange categories called "collective nouns." Collective nouns can be either singular or plural (examples include: audience, team, group, committee, public, . . .). For purposes of subject-verb agreement, collective nouns can be considered either plural or singular -- depending on how the writer thinks of the sentence .

Consider the following phrase:
1)The public don't know the real election issues.
vs.
2)The public doesn't vote on this until next month.

The first sentence assumes that you are discussing the public as a collection of individuals -- a situation where each individual within the group happens to fall into fall into a collective group.

The second sentence assumes that you are discussing the public as a single group, taking a group action.

I figure this was a bit of overkill, but there you have it. In short, it depends on the context in which "public" is used.


okay this is a small piece of the Dutch School Exam of 1997 English
a story about interactive Shopping And i quote

"Retailers will re-learn an old lesson: consumers prefer shops that do not treat them like cattle. If ____10____ helps wipe out those who ignore that lesson it will be a dream come true."

10 []
-- A -- interactivity
-- B -- nostalgia
-- C -- Politocs
-- D -- The shopping public

I answered D and A appeares the answer, I'm ok with that but my teacher no claims "the shopping public helps" is impossible and she did that with a "haha i know stuff better then you do" kinda smile
so i love to prove her wrong


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