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Larry_OHF · 09-09-2001, 02:30 PM

In response to something I read earlier, God knew, (he being all-knowing) that when he created mortals, they would disobey. It is only given to Jesus Christ to be perfect, so we all fall short of our expectations. Adam and Eve cannot be considered any different than that.
Since God already knew that mankind would fall from grace, He already had Jesus lined up to save us. Christ's role in the Plan of Salvation was foreseen as needed.
As for the part of "Eat and ye shall surely die" ~ God, and Thou shalt not surely die ~Satan...that can be explained like this...
Temporal death- Body dies
Spiritual death- Living outside of the presence of God (the Spirit cannot actually die, but the loss of God's presence in one's life is termed asd Spiritual death.
When God said taht they shall surely die, he did not say that they would fall dead at that moment. But they did fall from his presence, meaning that they had to be cast out. The scriptures point out that Adam and Eve lived a long time after that, and had children. When Satan said "thou shall not surely die, he was answering in half-truths. He was telling Eve that she would not instantly lose her life. What he did not tell her is that she would eventually suffer physical death, but since he is satan, he didn't feel the need to include that part.

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Father of the wicked but cute child known as MaryBeth

Padre de una niña bien traviosa pero guapa
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Aisukuríimu ga tabetái desu.

[This message has been edited by Larry_OHF (edited 09-09-2001).]

09-09-2001, 02:30 PM	#76
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 49 Posts: 14,759	In response to something I read earlier, God knew, (he being all-knowing) that when he created mortals, they would disobey. It is only given to Jesus Christ to be perfect, so we all fall short of our expectations. Adam and Eve cannot be considered any different than that. Since God already knew that mankind would fall from grace, He already had Jesus lined up to save us. Christ's role in the Plan of Salvation was foreseen as needed. As for the part of "Eat and ye shall surely die" ~ God, and Thou shalt not surely die ~Satan...that can be explained like this... Temporal death- Body dies Spiritual death- Living outside of the presence of God (the Spirit cannot actually die, but the loss of God's presence in one's life is termed asd Spiritual death. When God said taht they shall surely die, he did not say that they would fall dead at that moment. But they did fall from his presence, meaning that they had to be cast out. The scriptures point out that Adam and Eve lived a long time after that, and had children. When Satan said "thou shall not surely die, he was answering in half-truths. He was telling Eve that she would not instantly lose her life. What he did not tell her is that she would eventually suffer physical death, but since he is satan, he didn't feel the need to include that part. ------------------ Father of the wicked but cute child known as MaryBeth Padre de una niña bien traviosa pero guapa --------------------- Aisukuríimu ga tabetái desu. [This message has been edited by Larry_OHF (edited 09-09-2001).]