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Old 09-09-2001, 12:23 PM   #71
Melusine
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Join Date: January 8, 2001
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Age: 45
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fljotsdale:
And a couple of comments:
1. Melusine: You can blame men (obviously!) for the idea that ‘woman is the principle of evil made flesh’! It sorta goes back to the religious teachers of pre-christian biblical (and some pagan) times; but it was really souped up by Catholicism. They decided to turn men (especially priests) off women big-time, and some really vitriolic stuff was written about women. Some of it puts blisters on your eyeballs!
If you ever read ‘Name of the Rose’ by Umberto Eco, you will have some idea how the clergy were made to feel about women. Here are some less vitriolic comments:
Tertullian: "Woman, you ought to go about clad in mourning and rags, your eyes filled with tears of remorse, to make us forget that you have been mankind’s destruction. Woman, you are the gate to Hell."
Thomas Aquinas: "Woman is a rapidly growing weed, an imperfect being. Her body attains maturity more rapidly only because it is of less value, and nature is engaged less in her making. Women are born to be eternally maintained under the yoke of their lords and masters, (who are) endowed by nature with superiority in every respect, and therefore destined to rule."
Origen: "Matrimony is impure and unholy; a means of sensual concupiscence."

F, thanks. I've read the Name of the Rose, obviously...
I wasn't exactly blaming men, I was just trying to explain my theory on why I thought Eve was less to blame than Adam.

Very interesting post you wrote...can't wait to see the reactions!


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