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Old 09-08-2001, 10:50 PM   #49
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Horus - Egyptian Sky God
 

Join Date: March 4, 2001
Location: either CA or MO
Age: 43
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Quote:
Originally posted by Larry_OHF:

John 7:17" If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself."

How about this.
This is the way I learned it.
Compare faith to a seed.
You have a tiny little seed, and you want it to sprout, to see if it is a good seed, or if it does not, it is bad. If the seed sprouts, you know it is good, and thus you have proven a small thing. If it does not grow, then that could mean that you did not nurture the seed, and give it a chance.
Ok...let's say that the seed has now sprouted, but it is a small, little thing. To continue to nurture, and take care of that seed will help you grow the sapling into an enormous tree.
To begin, you have to give the seed a place to grow in your heart.
Next, ask God if He is there. (that means prayer)
Now, the fruits of the Spirit will bring a feeling of love, peace, joy, etc.(Gal.5:22,23), but will not be a loud voice. You will not get a phone call and God say, Yo! I is here!
No...he will send the Comforter to you, and the undeniable feeling of the Spirit of Truth can leave you no doubt.
I can talk until my dying day, and none of my words would hold any ground until the Spirit testified the truth of it unto you. Without the Spirit, my words are nothing.



makes sense
another thing, are we required to have faith? to put faith in something we or I totally have no knowledge of, that just sounds like "blind faith"

are you asking me to give "blind faith" a chance?

dont get me wrong, I am not trying to trip you, it is just I have not yet grasped the whole concept.

also, let me summerize what I have heard so far

suppose there is a God
then it is very well possible that we exist as pre-life form
we were sinned, imperfect
God want us to be like him, and we cannot do that at his presence
so he let us born on earth, so that we can suffer, grow, and improve

by the way, you explained "why God care" because that is just God's way, he shows love through his caring. (makes perfect sense) correct? every step makes sense, except the same old question "suppose there is a God"

so I have to give "faith" a chance t let it grow, right? gosh, this is getting mroe confusion
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