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Old 09-07-2001, 01:55 PM   #5
Kaz
Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom
 

Join Date: August 16, 2001
Location: UK
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown:
Starting a separate thread on this. It grows out of the US perspective thread.

Some people basically voiced the old sentiment of "Love It or Leave It" in that thread. Apparently they were disturbed by criticisms of the US from Americans, and dusted off the old rhetoric about how criticisms meant those Americans didn't appreciate how their fathers and grandfathers and great great great grandfathers died for their freedom, etc.

Well, as an American critical of many aspects of US culture and government, I've got news for you. *Activates Rant Mode*

I LOVE this land I was born in, and which my family has lived since Colonial times. I love living in it, studying it, exploring it, learning about it, and participating in it. I love it SO MUCH, that I absolutely REFUSE to stand by, deaf and dumb and blind, while others destroy it! You got that?!? I love it so much I will not abandon it and flee somewhere else, but will stay and fight for it! I love it so much I will not ignore its problems! I love it so much I will not stick my head in the sand and pretend everything is just fine! I love it so much I will not fiddle while it burns down around me! I love it so much that I will search intensely for the causes of the problems, and root them out! I love it too much to sit back and watch it die, either here or in some far away other place!

"America, Love it or Leave It!" What a sick joke!

Try loving it so much that you do something about its problems instead!

*Deactivates Rant Mode*
That would probably be the way I feel about Germany - IF such thinking weren't considered Nazi. As it is, I really like living in Germany, but America has definite advantadges too. I like both countries, but I will not stop critizising them or take everything in it at face value. Is that something like what you mean, Diogenes? (No you're posting quite clearly its just been a long day and I'm tired so I didn't understand all of what you said)

EDIT: Oops, I just realized that I accidentally accused you of being Nazis Sorry. I hope you all realize the way I mean it.
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