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Old 08-23-2001, 11:11 AM   #62
Diogenes Of Pumpkintown
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[quote]Originally posted by Redblueflare:
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You don't feel pain in dreams. In any dream no matter how terrible, you feel no pain. If we were in a butterflies dream, or anythings for that matter, you wouldn't feel a thing if you fell down a hill.
I, all of us exist. I'll just leave it at that for now.


Sure one can feel pain in dreams.

Now don't reply with some bogus scientific argument about what pain is objectively, and therefore the sensation of pain in dreams is not "real" pain. That is missing the entire point.

The point is that the subjective experience, in a dream, of pain can seem completely real -- and thus it is possible that all of this "life" as we know it is but a dream.

As for Melusine's point about how real everything seems in this life and therefore it must be real, the answer is that I have had dreams that seemed completely real, and I only became aware that it was just a dream after I woke up and found myself lying in bed.

Subjective certainty is not proof. One can be subjectively certain even in a dream.
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