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Originally posted by Moridin:
Ah Mel, never were you considered stupid  And you were never asked to believe this theory, I don't and never claimed to. Merely mentioned that it exists. Sheesh!
And for the infallible proof of God's existance...could one not push themselves? This immovable object could be nothing more that a large brick wall...right?
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Well, no. You should start at the lowest levels when imagining this. Movement also means the movement of atoms, molecules, etc. To move your leg, a complex of chemistry is going on inside your body. The point is, that if anything needs to be moved before it moves, this immovable mover must transcend all the laws of physics, therefore being (a) God.
Heh....I don't believe in the theory of the Immobile Mover, but it is hard to disprove.
To the person who said that Cogito ergo sum does not hold because one cannot define 'I' or even 'to be' (Istaron I believe it was):
That is just petty nitpicking over terms. Why can't you define I? Your thoughts are a sure sign of the fact that there is an individual thinking them. You can't do that off as being a possible delusion, dream or something. Do you believe your thoughts aren't real?
I agree with Dio that in the end it does not matter whether we are really brains in vats, but even when it doesn't matter, I refuse to accept the possibility. The world is SO real, so tangible, so intense....how can't it be true?? I KNOW I exist. I can't believe that my thoughts, the things I create (such as music, words on paper, etc.) are part of a large virtual reality of some kind. Exactly because we experience all this, it is made real.
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