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Old 07-21-2001, 02:14 PM   #20
Cloudbringer
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Join Date: March 1, 2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dramnek_Ulk:
Prove you do have a soul,
There is no evidence at all for the existence of what people would call a soul. If their is no evidence,it cannot be assumed to exist until there is evidence to prove otherwise.
belief or faith in an idea does not make it valid.
I actually have no physical evidence you exist at the moment. Computer programs can do postings too. I have no evidence air exists (sure scientists may but *I* do not) yet I breathe it and I believe those who tell me that's what I breathe to live.

You know five hundred years ago, nobody could prove air existed and it was thought that evil spirits made one sick. Is the fact that empirical proof (slides and microscope views et al) were not available to prove the existence of bacteria and viruses, proof that diseases were not caused by them then? Were diseases caused by evil spirits until we had proof that viruses and germs are responsible? Of course not! And the fact that we cannot draw a picture of a soul does not mean it doesn't exist. It means we are incapable of understanding it at this time. There are many things in this universe that we do not yet know about and every day new discoveries are made. Those things existed before man found them and I'm sure many of us would never have envisioned them but that doesn't make them invalid. I for one have never seen an atom or neutrino or a black hole. Do they exist? Well I'm willing to suspend my disbelief. Are you?

And sorry, but in this instance I believe you are wrong. My faith is enough for me. It is not enough for *you*, would be a more accurate comment, I think. Statements like yours do not change the the fact that my faith endures. Nor do they make me or others suddenly decide that you are right. All they do is make it crystal clear that there are a whole lot of differing views on the issue.

My point being, that while it is your opinion that there is no soul, you cannot prove to it my satisfaction. And I cannot prove it's existence to yours. Stalemate, I believe.

Cloudy

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