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Originally posted by Shadowstrider:
Once again, laughable. I twisted nobodies words. You were NOT insulted, nor were you "attacked" or "belittled" or called a liar. Kiwidoc posted her FACTS. She quoted your posts and said what was incorrect about them, that IS NOT an attack in anyway.
BTW-Don't tell me what to learn how to do. I have taken the ASVAB and a law course in night college, I got the highest marks on nearly every test, every test was above 87%. I also got the highest on 2 of 3 vocal debates. I know how to read, and I know how to do text interpretation. I know EXACTLY what happened, in NO way were you flamed.
You have not made a valid point yet, so I would say i am winning this case.
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Originally quoted by Moni;
...women don't have to suffer as seriously as some do.
For women who do suffer, I would recommend a change in diet...less chemically charged foods for starters. Iron and B-vitamin rich foods also lessen the effects.
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Originally quoted by Kiwidoc in response to the above attempt to help:
Sorry to disappoint you Moni but that is just not true.
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FACT: PMS can be controlled with safe natural products and lifestyle changes.
FACT: Depression can also be influenced by nutritional factors, such as low levels of vitamin B12, or by iron-deficiency anaemia, which can result from poor diet or from menstruation.
This is where my former condition was belittled:
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Originally posted by Kiwidoc:
Moni - I am sorry you have had so much deep, deep sadness in your life and I admire you for dealing with it so well. However that is not the same thing as Severe Depression.
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Has Kiwidoc studied my history?
Did she ever sit down in any formal Psychiatric Session with me and listen to the years of torment that I suffered at the hands of my family members?
Suffering which led me to eventually seriously contemplate killing them and suffering that made me feel like I needed to run away as a teenager so that I wouldn't be pushed into pulling the trigger?
Did she listen to me tell about the nightmares I had that kept me fearful of sleeping for the first seven years of my life?
Is she aware of the eating disorders I developed out of the sheer dread of having to go home from school every day and having to live in fear every night, falling asleep from exhaustion because I was afraid to close my eyes for fear of what my siblings or mother would do to me?
Does she know how hard I cried for hours because I was locked in a closet or tied to a tree out in the yard?
Did she ever feel the pain in my bones when waves of saddness washed over me on a daily basis because I was alone and people who could help looked the other way?
Has she seen the deep scars on my wrist?
No. So how can she say that I was just merely very sad for over twenty years?
Is it because I got through it all and can live as a happy person on my own and without having to be on meds?
How can I know if Kiwidoc herself won't say?
But, belittling what I suffered allowed her to continue posting her opinions as fact without having to admit she was wrong, i.e. :
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Originally posted by Kiwidoc:
"Currently medication is the ONLY thing that has been shown to help these people."
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FACT: Depression can be treated successfully, but different treatments seem to work best for different people. For example, a drug may be effective and well tolerated in one person but not another. Support groups may help some people deal with major life changes that require new coping skills or social support. Different kinds of psychological (talking) treatments are also useful. Choosing the right treatment is an individual process that will depend not only on the severity of the depression, but on the person's preferences and those of their doctor.
I said I was not going to further converse with you but you keep pushing the subject.
There are your facts friend. Do with them what you will.
In my opinion, you are looking more and more like a vulture with a tapeworm. I have every confidence in you in your quest to become a lawyer.
Tell on me for "flaming" you for stating my opinion of your actions regarding this mattter if it suits you and if Ziroc agrees, I'll take whatever punishment he deems necessary but your continued
apparent harassment of me on these issues is completely uncalled for.
Kiwidoc has chosen not to address them personally. That's no big deal because I know the facts...I have posted them here for you to see yet again. Let it be "friend".
Now, I would thank you to leave me alone and go find some other argument where you stand a chance of proving yourself right.
I am sure Ziroc and the moderators would thank you as well.
As far as I am concerned, this case is closed.
Moni
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[This message has been edited by Moni (edited 06-23-2001).]