Calm, rational discussion about issues, especially controversial ones, is how we all leverage knowledge from each other. As long as we remember everyone's right to have a point of view, and not take the discussions personally, and remember that it's not about winning or losing about about learning, we can all have a spirited, positive debate!
In answer to your question - yes, it's over. He was pronounced dead about a couple of hours ago AFAIK.
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