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Originally posted by Yorick:
This is all one reason I'm a Christian. Human nature has proven so destructive, and Jesus teaching is so much about loving your enemy and turning the other cheek, that I believe it's the only hope (if there is one) for world peace. The amazing thing is, his ideas were formulated without any education, without being born into privellege like say Buddha, and with limited travel, yet his teachings are so outside human nature and what he would have experienced.
(steps off soapbox)
You'd never guess I was an optimist would you? A pessimistic optimist. A cynical believer. Ah well.
Thanks for the hi ho Moiraine. 
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You are welcome, Yorick !
Damn, being in an Internet Café is frustrating, I barely have time to read 1% of the posts - is it this frustrating for you since you are in walkabout, Yorick ? Receive all my sympathy ...
I agree with you, Yorick, about Jesus. I agree wholeheartedly that he was the most exceptional man, and that his teaching is maybe our only chance. And that is why I am an atheist. Because so many so-called 'Christian' people seem to have forgotten what being a Christian is about. Because it seems to me that, whatever the Christian Church, most high ranking people are there only because of the power it gives them. Oh there are a good many great Christians, all right. But they live in modesty, and because of the Churches officials, their voice is not heard. So until proven otherwise, I won't sign in, I will stay a free-lance.
Maybe the lack of education and travel and privilege have been a chance for Jesus - maybe otherwise he would have got corrupted or at least would have bent his ideas and sayings. I believe that wisdom is not at all the same thing as knowledge, and in some cases knowledge can restrain wisdom - yes, if knowledge makes you think that you have to get more pragmatic, to abandon ideas because you think that there is no chance that they can be implemented.
Just for the anecdote, atheists as my husband and I are, my son will go to a Christan college next year. Because the director of the public college is an asshole (sorry, but it is true) and the director of the Christian college is a broad-minded humanist.
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The world is my oyster !