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250 · 04-09-2001, 03:40 PM

well, Sir, I am from china, while some of you said is true, some are not. Think about it, I am abroad, and my parents visited me six times in the past three years, they hadn't been held hostage

sure, you don't get to say everything you wanted in china, and I am afraid that is just an reality so hard to change right now. lets not get into wether is neccesary or not.

I had computer in china, and I had internet access. was it monitored? well, i am not sure. but there are thousands of "computer bars" out there in the streets (every major city). one only needs to pay a few dollars, and one can stay there as long as he wants. and they all have access to internent, if one wants to monitor all these computers, I think it is very huge a job with little benefit. also, some internet access is restricted, such as pornagraphical ones, which i think it should be.

I am educated from chinese school, and I know well that state does not choose your profecion. sure, there is a lot difference between chinese education system and US ones, but one is not neccesserily better.

you mentioned Pearl Harbor being bombed by Japan. well, if one talks about historical incidents, one should not talk it out of context. Japan was expanding at that time, their military forces invaded/occupied many asian countries. this, at the same time, was harmful to US's control over east asia. US would join the war against Japan sooner or later, and that was why Japan started fire first. It was UNAVOIDABLE due to the confrontation of two nation's interests.

however, look what China had done? in the past 50 years, China had only confronted US militarily twice. one was Korean War, another was Vietnam War. Both warfares happened near Chinese mainland, shouldn't a country properly interfere when a war had a great possibility to do harm to its people? I think yes, and the actions were justified. After all, don't send your army here, and we are fine.

so why the US began to constantly spying on China? China had no interest of going to war with US. I, as a Chinese, saw what is needed for china. Chinese people are still below average standard of richness, China needs to develope economically as well as its people's idea of democratic, liberty, and freedom of speech. If there is one thing China doesn't want now, it is war with US.

However, US had been constantly sending military aircraft along Southern China sea. The purpose while mostly remained secret, was obvious obtaining information for its unfriendly nearby countries. I mean, WHY?? does that mean, US want every chinese to extinct from this earth? does that mean US want every chinese to suffer as long as US exists? does that mean every chinese to live under its shadow in their lives? cannot the two countries sit down and talk like normal people?

Competitor, a shameful declaration. Spy, a poor excuse. we all should think and reason, like a rationa being we are. we all should look into our own faults before defend our actions and point our fingers

lets pray there be no war

[This message has been edited by 250 (edited 04-09-2001).]

04-09-2001, 03:40 PM	#167
250 Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: either CA or MO Age: 43 Posts: 2,674	well, Sir, I am from china, while some of you said is true, some are not. Think about it, I am abroad, and my parents visited me six times in the past three years, they hadn't been held hostage sure, you don't get to say everything you wanted in china, and I am afraid that is just an reality so hard to change right now. lets not get into wether is neccesary or not. I had computer in china, and I had internet access. was it monitored? well, i am not sure. but there are thousands of "computer bars" out there in the streets (every major city). one only needs to pay a few dollars, and one can stay there as long as he wants. and they all have access to internent, if one wants to monitor all these computers, I think it is very huge a job with little benefit. also, some internet access is restricted, such as pornagraphical ones, which i think it should be. I am educated from chinese school, and I know well that state does not choose your profecion. sure, there is a lot difference between chinese education system and US ones, but one is not neccesserily better. you mentioned Pearl Harbor being bombed by Japan. well, if one talks about historical incidents, one should not talk it out of context. Japan was expanding at that time, their military forces invaded/occupied many asian countries. this, at the same time, was harmful to US's control over east asia. US would join the war against Japan sooner or later, and that was why Japan started fire first. It was UNAVOIDABLE due to the confrontation of two nation's interests. however, look what China had done? in the past 50 years, China had only confronted US militarily twice. one was Korean War, another was Vietnam War. Both warfares happened near Chinese mainland, shouldn't a country properly interfere when a war had a great possibility to do harm to its people? I think yes, and the actions were justified. After all, don't send your army here, and we are fine. so why the US began to constantly spying on China? China had no interest of going to war with US. I, as a Chinese, saw what is needed for china. Chinese people are still below average standard of richness, China needs to develope economically as well as its people's idea of democratic, liberty, and freedom of speech. If there is one thing China doesn't want now, it is war with US. However, US had been constantly sending military aircraft along Southern China sea. The purpose while mostly remained secret, was obvious obtaining information for its unfriendly nearby countries. I mean, WHY?? does that mean, US want every chinese to extinct from this earth? does that mean US want every chinese to suffer as long as US exists? does that mean every chinese to live under its shadow in their lives? cannot the two countries sit down and talk like normal people? Competitor, a shameful declaration. Spy, a poor excuse. we all should think and reason, like a rationa being we are. we all should look into our own faults before defend our actions and point our fingers lets pray there be no war [This message has been edited by 250 (edited 04-09-2001).]