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Lucern · 01-02-2006, 05:26 PM

This might be 'so' last week for everyone else, but I just saw it. I had no idea about the modding that went on, and now I'm considering playing it again, so thanks!

And $10 is the going rate for sub-par games from 2003 that you're ambivalent about. It can't get much lower. I just bought Hidden and Dangerous 2 for that much, which fits the bill

Pros: Best combat in a D&D title to date if you like the tabletop. The last games that came close had shiny gold boxes

Excellent character creation and advancement, letting you test your character ideas, with a good implementation of alignment and reputation, and the very cool implementation of crafting skills (scrolls, potions, magic weapons, amulets/rings/ect).

Basically everything shows up on the character models, and they start looking cool

I think something like 53 different characters can join your party (up to a party of 8 I think), ranging from the useless to the awesome, human peasants to hobgoblins and an ogre

And it's at least stable with all the patching, though my HD crashed and died when I was in the fire node the first time lol. Coincidence?

Cons: Releasing it in the awful state that they did ensured that no more like it would be made. It has small character models, and it's kindof a dreary world. It's short, especially if you just fight and don't talk to enemy groups (which opens up several quests). Its shortness hurts the most. Atari didn't even release their world editor. A twinked out party could probably blow through the game in 8-10 hours without knowing what they were up against if they went to the right places.

So unless anyone's willing to form a crack team of infiltration experts to retrieve the world editor, it remains as is: I think $10 is worth it. Buy it, patch it, mod it, finish it, and move on if any of the pros sound appealing.

01-02-2006, 05:26 PM	#19
Lucern Quintesson Join Date: August 28, 2004 Location: the middle of Michigan Age: 43 Posts: 1,011	This might be 'so' last week for everyone else, but I just saw it. I had no idea about the modding that went on, and now I'm considering playing it again, so thanks! And $10 is the going rate for sub-par games from 2003 that you're ambivalent about. It can't get much lower. I just bought Hidden and Dangerous 2 for that much, which fits the bill Pros: Best combat in a D&D title to date if you like the tabletop. The last games that came close had shiny gold boxes Excellent character creation and advancement, letting you test your character ideas, with a good implementation of alignment and reputation, and the very cool implementation of crafting skills (scrolls, potions, magic weapons, amulets/rings/ect). Basically everything shows up on the character models, and they start looking cool I think something like 53 different characters can join your party (up to a party of 8 I think), ranging from the useless to the awesome, human peasants to hobgoblins and an ogre And it's at least stable with all the patching, though my HD crashed and died when I was in the fire node the first time lol. Coincidence? Cons: Releasing it in the awful state that they did ensured that no more like it would be made. It has small character models, and it's kindof a dreary world. It's short, especially if you just fight and don't talk to enemy groups (which opens up several quests). Its shortness hurts the most. Atari didn't even release their world editor. A twinked out party could probably blow through the game in 8-10 hours without knowing what they were up against if they went to the right places. So unless anyone's willing to form a crack team of infiltration experts to retrieve the world editor, it remains as is: I think $10 is worth it. Buy it, patch it, mod it, finish it, and move on if any of the pros sound appealing.